Glock vs Walther P99QA vs P7? Opinions?

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Billmanweh

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After shooting everything I could get my hands on, I've decided to get either the Glock 17 or 34.

But I'm also really curious about the P99QA and the P7.

I'd really love to hear comments and comparisons from someone who's shot two or more of these three guns.
 
Billmanweh,

I have a Glock 17 and a H&K P7M8. I can shoot the P7 more accurately and it is a marvel of German engineering. I still wouldn't get rid of my Glock though.

Jerry
 
I have only fondled the Walther, so I can't really provide an opinion on those, but I do own a G17 and a P7M8.
I like the simplicity of the Glocks. Pull trigger - - BANG! No safeties to wipe off, just pull the trigger.
The reason I initially bought the P7 was for the safety it provided. It just will not and cannot go bang unless the sqeeze cocker is properly engaged. Once it is engaged, the stock trigger is sweet ;) & it points so intuitively.
In my hands, the P7 is far more accurate than my G17. My only real gripe I have re: my P7 is its weight. For a compact, it is heavy. But the weight does aid in recoil reduction & w/ a good holster, the weight really isn't an issue.
 
I've shot the Glock and have the P99QA. I can shoot both equally well. I don't like the spongy feel of the Glock trigger. The P99QA is nice a crisp. I also like the grip on the P99 better. Its a lot more comfortable and can be adjusted to your hand size.

Like the Glock, there are no manual safeties to "fumble" with. Just point and shoot.

P99
 
You P7 guys, it's almost like a cult or something...

:rolleyes:

They don't seem very practical, but somewhere deep inside, I feel I must have one.

I really, really would like to hear from someone who's shot that Walther P99QA.
 
P99

I'd really like to hear more about the trigger pull on the QA. Does it stage like the Glock does? How heavy would you say it is?

Would you mind e-mailing me?
 
I had thought the QA trigger was similar to the Glock, Kahr, USP LE and every other prestaged DA triggers- long and light.

The P99 is Walthers opportunity to market a pistol with a higher profit margin, like Glock, Steyr, USP, XD, CZ100, Kahr P9. The gun may work well, but it cost half as much to make as a similar metal gun. Keep that in mind when you pony up $600 for one.

There is nothing wrong with the P7. It will do anything any other pistol will, and most better. No other weapon offers that combination of reliability, fast handling, compactness, safety, accuracy and fast followup in a single weapon. If you care for it, it will likely never, ever jam and will shoot like a target gun the whole time.

The few downsides to the P7 are nit-picky and unimportant compared to it's pluses. It is the standard that all pistols should live up to. If you can stomach the initial cost, it will never let you down. I would sell everything else before I'd part with mine.
 
The Glock 19 and P99QA are very similar, with the P7 being totally different. I have a Glock 23, a P99 9mm, and a P7M13. Here's my take:

The Glock and Walther are polymer hi-caps holding 15+1 or 16+1 rounds of 9mm in a fairly light and compact package. Neither have real safeties. Both are incredibly reliable, pack a good amount of firepower, and are plenty accurate for defensive work. The Glock has a little more available for it (holsters, Lasermax, etc.), but you can find excellent holsters for the P99 if you look around (try Desantis). Both are excellent guns (I recently posted a comparison of the 2 as the best all around guns), but I'd give the edge to the Walther.

The P7M8 holds 8+1 rounds of 9mm (my P7M13 holds 13+1), and is relatively heavy compared to the polymer guns. It has the grip safety, which is much more useful than the grip safety on a 1911 (someone who wasn't familiar with the gun might not know how to use it). Also, the P7's get hot real quick. You can't put more than 40 or 50 rounds through one in one session. While you might not need 40 or 50 rounds in a defensive situation, you'll surely want more than that in a practice session, particularly if it's your only gun. If you really want to compare an HK to the Glock and Walther, you may want to take a look at the USP or USPc (I have a USPc, and while I like it, I prefer the Glock and Walther).
 
The P7 is best. It should be noted that the P7 can easily be shot more than 50-60 times per session. God knows I've shot hundreds of rounds in a session. It is wise, however, to pace yourself. If you give it a three minute break every box of fifty you can shoot untill your fingers fall off.

GHB
 
Greg,

What on earth are you trying to say? I've shot my P99's hundreds of times per session with no hickups. I've also shot a Glock hundreds of times per session with no hickups. So I don't get it.

Maybe your just being funny. :rolleyes:

P99
 
Well, I finally had the chance to shoot all three side by side last night.

The P7 was my least favorite, not just of the three, but out of most everything I've shot. For someone who wants a very expensive, heavy, difficult to find, unusual to operate 8 shot 9mm, great. But to compare it to a Glock or P99? They must come from the factory sprinkled with fairy dust.

The P99 was nice, and one of my favorites overall. Probably my second favorite out of the ten or so pistols I shot this month. Although I *really* don't like that style mag release. Otherwise a really, really nice gun.

But I'm getting the Glock. For me, my next favorite was a distant second.
 
I have a Glock and a P-99 and can only speak about those.

I much prefer the P-99. I carry the P-99 cocked to avoid the DA trigger first shot. There is no comparison between the Glock always grungy trigger and the SA trigger on the P-99. The DA trigger is similar, for lack of a better term, to the Glock. I always have hated that DA shot. If I could change one thing on the P-99 it would be SA only\always. SA is short pull and very fast reset.

The QA is even nicer.

Rumor has it that Walther is dropping the price on their P-99's by nearly $150. Probably got tired of being underpriced. (surprise surprise, some people will buy because of lower price) I didn't mind paying extra for the Walther, it was worth it. The backstraps on the grip is pure genius. Thousands of rounds, never a problem of any kind. Only simulated failures for training purposes. Sweet and smooth, I can't wait to get one of each caliber\color.

If you are comparing pistols to buy, find somewhere to rent them.
 
Billmanweh, you wrote:
The P7 was my least favorite, not just of the three, but out of most everything I've shot. For someone who wants a very expensive, heavy, difficult to find, unusual to operate 8 shot 9mm, great. But to compare it to a Glock or P99? They must come from the factory sprinkled with fairy dust.
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Whether someone likes a P7 or not is a very personal thing. I find that comparing handguns involves a lot of removing of expectations. The P7 is unique in many ways. They are expensive and difficult to find. Although they are heavier than most comparable pistols, they have a much better balance, and thus are often perceived as being lighter. If you didn't care for the P7, then it's not for you.
 
I've only had my P99 for a short time and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet (planning to in a few weeks, when work slows down). But its feel and low weight are great, as well as Walther reputation.

The P7 is an excellent gun, super high quality, and a good carry gun (but it is a little heavy). However, unless you have STRONG hands to hold the cocking lever down, you'll probably want something else. My hands aren't strong, and I found that during firing, my hand would (involuntarily) relax, rendering the gun inoperable. Since this is obviously not good, I sold it. I hated to, it was a great gun, but it just wasn't for me. :(
 
Maybe most P7 shooters are wrong.

Kind of funny how all of these P7 owners say that the P7 most accurate 9mm handgun they've EVER shot. Ill-informed gun snobs!

I've cleaned many a clock in steel plate shoots with my P7M8 and PSP. And seen a lot of average shooters shot some nice 25 yard groups with the P7.

Maybe the P7s manual of arms wasn't for you.

But if could only have one 9mm, you can bet your backside, I'm keeping the P7.

Half inch groups at 25 yards with combat sights is pretty accurate I'd think for a "right out of the box" gun.

TEHO!
 
The number one reason that I like the P7 is because it has the lowest muzzle flip out of any 9mm that I've shot so far.
 
Some of you P7 fanatics take things too seriously. Not everyone is totally enamored of the P7. I bought a NIB P7M8 back around 1992 or 1993. I thought it was second to none in the quality of its construction. It was beautiful to look at and fondle. It is a very innovative and unique design. But I really was not overly impressed with it otherwise. I sold it several years later and have no regrets. Please don't deride someone for having tastes that differ from yours.
 
I just have to throw this in:

I bought a P7 a couple years ago because I'd always admired the design and decided to put my money where my mouth was.

My first time at the range it shot okay. I still liked the handling but the recoil was higher than some other guns and the trigger, though light, was a little funny. It didn't make me an Olympic shooter.

Then IDPA night came and I took the new gun rather than the Glock 19. I was doing decently with the Glock. The P7 was simply amazing. Literally everything was faster; shooting, loading, drawing. I started to take some shots one handed during tactical reloads. For the first time, I could perform honest to God double taps. Sometimes the second shot goes out before I've thought of it.

I've taken people shooting with it on several occassions. They only get impressed with it if they shoot it very fast or bench rest it. If you take your time or just plink you'll never understand where the P7 people are coming from. Wonderful weapon under pressure.

In terms of the manual of arms, it's simple: when in doubt, squeeze.
 
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