Glock trigger pull

The break weight is indeed the same, pre-set trigger or not. Pre-set is just shorter.

Whether heavier trigger is safer or a particular trigger configuration is better than the other is mostly subjective; different people have different takes. Safety is in broader sense, not only related to unintentionally discharge. Generally speaking if one has more confidence in an equipment so that he doesn't worry when using it, it is safer for him to operate it.

I hope this doesn't come out to be too ignorant.

-TL
 
The way I think of it is, if a holster folds over or something catches in the trigger guard as I'm holstering my Glock, I'll likely be able to notice it better if it's pulling on a heavier trigger. There will be 8-9lbs of pressure pushing back at me instead of 3-5.

And I'm sure someone will say "oh, well you should watch your weapon while you holster and make sure it's safe and clear, then that'd never happen". Well yeah, obviously you should. But if it does happen, God forbid, I'll rather have a trigger that's a little more forgiving.
 
Before you seriously consider that combo, I'd strongly suggest you go google news stories on how many innocent bystanders have been hit/killed by the heavy nypd trigger, by nypd cops.

I'll agree there's a training issue and range time involved, but I expect there's a fair amount of blame the trigger should share.
 
TXAZ, have you tried an NY-1 with 3.5 connector? It adds around 1/2 pound to the pull weight. Not very much by any means. It just distributes weight through the pull, instead of all at the wall.

As to innocent civilians being hit by NYPD, I recently purchased a LEO trade in Glock 19. Serial number says it supposedly went to NYPD, it had the NY-2 trigger spring. The 12 POUND spring, with a stock connector. Now that's a heavy trigger. The NY-1/3.5 combo is nothing like that.
 
Before you seriously consider that combo, I'd strongly suggest you go google news stories on how many innocent bystanders have been hit/killed by the heavy nypd trigger, by nypd cops.
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The NY1 spring with a "-" connector combo doesn't change the pull weight much.

Most folks would probably think that the trigger weight was the same if they felt them both, my trigger gauge says that the combo is maybe a half-pound heavier--if that. Mostly what it does is to make the takeup portion of the pull about the same pull weight as the break, unlike the setup with the coil spring where the takeup pull weight is a lot lighter than the pull weight at the break point.

So it doesn't really make the pull heavier, it just gives you immediate feedback as soon as you start taking up the trigger.

The main reason I have my self-defense Glock set up that way is because I've never heard of an NY spring breaking while the coil trigger springs do occasionally give up the ghost.

I've come to like the trigger pull it gives--it feels much more like a double action revolver pull than the standard connector/coil spring combo. And I haven't found it to be an impediment to accurate shooting.
 
After studying some drawings, I think johnksa is right. I am going to like this new combination. It will pop up the sear positively when slide disconnects the trigger after firing. I need that to implement my own idea of limiting the trigger over travel.

If I still need to increase the weight further, I can replace the striker spring with the plus power spring in the kit. I am now getting more excited to try it out.

Thanks gentlemen. This thread has been fruitful.

-TL
 
Parts arrived. I put in the ny1 sear spring (took some doing to take the old spring out) and the 3.5lb connector.

The take-up is noticeably heavier, and the final break feels about the same. I have modified the trigger to limit the over travel. Previously I couldn't limit it too much or the trigger would have problem resetting. With this new combination, I can go much further. It cures the muzzle shift right when the striker releases, and the trigger reset is much shorter. I like it. It is exactly how I wanted it.

Thank you guys.

-TL
 
Glock 19

I found a used Glock 19 at a pawnshop and shot it better with Glock stock sights than later when I had night sights installed. This weekend I will have a 3.5# connector installed at a gun show and that should improve my target shooting, 7 Yds.
Anyway I have been carrying it since I purchased it because I trust it the most of my various 9mm's.
 
If you are uncomfortable with a light trigger on a carry pistol then you would definitely not like carrying a PPQ or a LC9S, both of which have light triggers. Requires extreme trigger discipline. I totally understand the reluctance to CCW pistols with light triggers.
 
what is the difference between pulling the trigger from the beginning all the way through and pulling it back to the wall then squeezing off the shot ? My G21 and G30s are stock Glocks with no changes and I like them the way they are.
I believe they were designed and built to be defensive guns and not target guns. I believe they were designed to replace the revolvers in law enforcement so the officer can draw and be ready to shoot with no safety to deal with, much like revolvers.
 
In revolver shooting jargon, it is called staging the trigger. Pull the trigger till hammer is about to drop. Stop and realigned the sight picture and squeeze off the shot. The idea is to avoid the long DA pull affecting sight alignment, or to make the long pull a clean break. I read it was popular among some revolver shooters for some time, but frawned upon by most.

I don't like staging the trigger. I train myself to pull it through when shooting a DA revolver. For glock I want to keep the same practice for the first shot. But for the following up shots, I reset trigger. The pull would be shorter and the shots will go faster.

I've seen people target shooting with glock. But the pistols are usually modified to lighten the trigger quite a bit.

-TL
 
I've tried a few combinations on various aftermarket Glock triggers (not my guns, so I'm not sure what exactly) and have found that my favorite mod for stock Glock triggers is to just shoot them a few thousand times.

Only thing I generally change on my Glocks are the sights.

Try a Ruger SR series; they have a much better trigger than any Glock I've tried. They're a striker fired gun, not a hammer fired gun, but worth a look
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I love the SR triggers, fantastic IMO. At least my old SR9c and SR40c were great. Dumped them for Glocks due to the grips being too slim for my tastes.
 
Some said a 3.5lb connector with 8lb nypd trigger spring gives ideal trigger pull for defense and carry.
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I had that setup in my 1st Glock, a 2nd Gen Model 19 years ago. I was told it was the preferable setup because it was more "rugged" than the standard setup and the NY Police used it. I didn't like it at all. Went back to the standard OEM setup and preferred that by far. None of my Glocks have modified triggers. I think the standard setup is ideal.
 
texagun: said:
Went back to the standard OEM setup and preferred that by far. None of my Glocks have modified triggers. I think the standard setup is ideal.
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Agree 100%, both of mine are totally stock which works fine with me.
 
Another vote for the OEM trigger. I could see changing out a NY trigger but I'd replace it with the stock one.

Once you master the stock trigger you're good to go. They all shoot pretty much the same.
 
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