Glock trigger job

Code4, if I might make a couple of suggestions
#1. Polish the internals
#2. Go shoot it, write down lots of notes about what like and don't like, length of reset? Mushy or crisp, etc... Do the best before and after analysis you can.
#3 Replace the trigger spring
#4 repeat shooting, analysis and note taking
#5 put stock trigger spring back in and swap in a lighter firing pin spring
#6 still more shooting analysis and notes
#7 put OEM firing pin spring back in and swap in a different connector
#8 and still more shooting more analysis and more notes.

#9 post results on TFL for everyone to enjoy

Mix and match until you find the combo you like. Some of the aftermarket connectors yield a longer and/or mushier reset. For me I do a real good, thorough, polish and am perfectly happy with the results for an EDC.

And a side benefit of all this shooting and part swapping is you are really going to end up knowing a whole lot more about your gun and hopefully a much better shot. :-)
 
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Duck of Death said:
If you can't handle 2.7 lbs then DON'T--I can and do.
Actually, by your own admission, you can't, you know you can't and therefore you don't and that is why you posted this:
Duck of Death said:
I also carry the G29 daily--with NO round in the chamber. You see I know MY limitations.
Cleared my carry gun w/the county attorney and got his OK.
If this is something you've done with the idea that it will insure you have no trouble if you ever have to use it, then it would have made a lot of sense to have polled a number of lawyers, including prosecutors and defense lawyers. And since a light trigger is actually more likely to become an issue in civil court than criminal court, it would have been wise to also poll some civil lawyers.
Thanks, I've been carrying concealed since I was 21--that's 61 years & haven't had to pull for peril yet.
Basing your carry method on the fact that you've never needed a gun doesn't follow. It MIGHT make sense to decide not to carry at all because you've never needed one in 61 years, but it doesn't make sense to decide HOW to carry based on never needing one.

That's like saying that you carry some money for emergency car repairs in case your car breaks down, but since your car has never broken down, you only carry $5. The problem is that $5 probably won't handle any emergency car repairs. If you think your car will never break down, it might make sense to decide to stop carrying money for car repairs, but it doesn't make sense to decide to carry an amount of money so small that it probably can't help solve the problem it's intended for.

Your decision on HOW to carry should be based NOT on whether or not you expect to need the gun (you can simply not carry if you think you won't need it) but on HOW you think you might need to use the gun if you ever have to pull it. It should be based on what kind of circumstances might be in effect if you ever need to draw.

Here are a list of questions that, in my opinion, each need a "Yes." answer before it would make sense to carry chamber empty. There might be others based on your specific circumstances, but these are a good starting point.

1. Can I rack a gun into action safely and do so, with a 100% success rate, regardless of stress or any other adverse conditions?

2. Can I guarantee that I will never have one hand injured when I need to use a gun OR can I rack a gun into action safely and do so, with a 100% success rate, one handed, with either hand, regardless of stress or other adverse conditions?

3. Can I guarantee that the circumstances of an attack will never require me to use one hand to fend off an attack or perform some other critical function when I need to use a gun OR can I rack a gun into action safely and do so, with a 100% success rate, regardless of stress or other adverse conditions and while fending off an attack?

If the honest answer to any of these questions is "No.", "Maybe not." or "Probably not." then it might be wise to rethink things.
Anyway to steer this back to actual Glock trigger jobs for carrying with a round in the chamber?
A Glock trigger job will be suitable for carrying with a round in the chamber if it:
  • Is extensively live-fire tested after completion to insure proper operation
  • Doesn't alter the geometry of the internal parts
  • Doesn't remove the plating on the internal parts
  • Doesn't alter the trigger travel or parts interactions in such a way as to deactivate any of the passive safeties
  • Doesn't reduce sear engagement below 2/3
  • Doesn't reduce the trigger weight too much**

**If you want to know what Glock thinks is "too much", you can find out by trying to buy a 3.5lb connector from them. They don't sell them--they're only available in their competition models--not their carry models.

"Why does that matter?", you ask--"I know better than the manufacturer!" I won't argue the point for a couple of reasons. First of all, I suppose it might be possible for someone here to know more than the manufacturer. Second, for those who don't but think they do, it would be futile because the first rule of Dunning-Kruger club is you don't know you're in Dunning-Kruger club.

So rather than argue, I'll just point out that it's not how much you know or believe you know--if the rubber meets the road, it will be necessary to convince OTHER people (jurors) that you know better than the manufacturer. Sadly, it's likely that they won't be as impressed with your amazing and in-depth knowledge of safe trigger weight and gun design is as you are. ;)
 
First off, I think it's funny that some people get butt hurt over how others use their guns, carry their guns etc. As long as they're not pointing them at you, who cares.

2nd... I've been doing the trigger polish job only recently. To my 27 and 30. IME I achieved the same results in my older glocks by running a few thousand rounds through them. I haven't noticed any less trigger pull with the polish job. Just smoother. But I don't have a trigger pull gauge either. So I can only make an assumption. So if you polish, or not, It's all good.
 
First off, I think it's funny that some people get butt hurt over how others use their guns, carry their guns etc.
There's a difference in being "butt hurt" about what someone does and promoting the principles of responsible firearms ownership and use. The latter is, in fact, the goal of TFL.

Speaking purely hypothetically, let's say that someone were advocating a modification to a firearm that, in their own opinion altered the functionality of the firearm significantly enough that they felt it was unwise for them to even carry the gun loaded after the modification had been performed. Don't you think that pointing out the contradiction would be promoting responsible firearms ownership and use?

Similarly, if someone, again purely hypothetically, commented on a potential legal aspect/pitfall of firearms ownership and use, but missed a significant point that was relevant to the topic, don't you think pointing out the missed point would be promoting responsible firearms use and ownership?

In other words, when someone asks for advice, it should be every TFL member's goal to provide advice that is consistent with the principles of responsible firearms ownership and to point out advice that they believe is inconsistent with those principles.

Of course, in reality, what often happens is that instead of giving carefully considered advice, tailored to the apparent experience/knowledge level of the person asking the question, the resulting discussion turns into a contest of egos where the goal isn't giving sound and responsible advice, but rather trying to prove who is the safest, who is the smartest, who is the best amateur gunsmith, who is the most skilled, who has the most experience, etc.

Ok, that aside--I half expected someone to object to the guidelines for Glock trigger jobs I listed in my last post. Since no one did, I'll concede that those guidelines are not hard and fast rules that apply across the board to everyone who does trigger jobs on Glocks regardless of their level of knowledge and experience. There are probably a few experienced and knowledgeable gunsmiths out there who might be able to violate some of those guidelines and still end up with a safe trigger job. What's important to understand is that they wouldn't be asking for advice on how to do safe Glock trigger jobs. For someone who does need advice on how to do safe Glock trigger jobs, I would say that those guidelines are hard and fast rules.
 
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