Glock-Stick with it?
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Limnophile
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The US military, however, has announced its intent to enter the 21st century by looking for a modular handgun to replace the M9, which is acknowledgement of the fact that fit and feel is important.
One can reliably rule out the purchase of a handgun by feel alone; thus saving the expense of buying and shooting it. Another expense-saving alternative is rental. It makes little sense to keep investing in a gun you don't like. The more you shoot it, the more it depreciates. That it doesn't feel good tells me you have experience with something that feels much better. Return to that gun or continue your search in a wise manner.
stagpanther
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Wow--all the "dump-it-now" gunners must never buy revolvers! LOL
Used is used--it's not going to depreciate much more by continuing to use it for a bit longer. I have to learn just about every hand gun I buy which IMO is realistically a 1000 rounds--but then again I'm not an intuitively good shooter.
Used is used--it's not going to depreciate much more by continuing to use it for a bit longer. I have to learn just about every hand gun I buy which IMO is realistically a 1000 rounds--but then again I'm not an intuitively good shooter.
When the Glock was new, nobody complained about grip angle. It wasn't until the Internet came along, and glock haters began spewing their hatred that grip angle became an "issue".
I go from Tokarev pistol to K-frame Smith to Glock with no grip issues whatsoever.
I've considered buying a used G22 police gun simply due to the fact that throughout the ammo shortage, Walmart never seemed to run out of 40s&w ammo.
I go from Tokarev pistol to K-frame Smith to Glock with no grip issues whatsoever.
I've considered buying a used G22 police gun simply due to the fact that throughout the ammo shortage, Walmart never seemed to run out of 40s&w ammo.
Limnophile
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I've never owned a revolver. I chose the semiauto route before semiautos for self defense and police use were cool.
In my current search for a pocket handgun I briefly considered a revolver, but semiautos are coming out as a superior choice. If revolvers are hard to shoot well, that's another reason to stick with semiautos.
That's a very expensive learning curve.
walks with gun
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I get to try out some of the currant trends here at the range, and get to see the good and bad points on them, What I've noticed so far is most people can shoot the Glocks better than most others, no matter what caliber their in. Great gun for the money, The two Walther PPQ's in 9 and 40 were nice range guns, but the triggers were to light for EDC in my opinion, I know were supposed to keep our fingers clear of the trigger but stuff happens sometimes, and it's about the equivalent of carry a cocked revolver.
I personally wouldn't think that I had enough rounds through it to make up my mind, so the most direct answer for me would be to keep shooting it a while longer.
That said, my own opinion, worth exactly what you are paying, is that the grip angle issue is very largely a matter of what the shooter is accustomed to. You indicated that you had shot 1911s quite a bit. Folks who are fondest of 1911s are often most critical of Glocks with respect to the grip angle. It certainly is different; different doesn't mean inherently bad, but if it is not to your personal taste you have no obligation to make yourself accustomed to a different grip angle, especially if it causes you to be less accurate or consistent with other pistols that you either like better or to which you have become more accustomed.
The net is this: If you want badly enough to own and shoot a Glock, you can get used to it, but if that goal isn't important enough to you to spend some more time and ammo dollars on it, there is nothing wrong with moving on.
Not quite as bad as a cocked and not locked revolver or any other type of hand gun but, I know what you mean. I'm not a huge fan of strikers for CC and like Da/Sa with decockers better. I don't see though how a Glock 19 with a 5.5lb trigger is significantly safer than a Walther PPQ with a 5lb trigger. They both have the same trigger tap that needs to be depressed before the trigger can be pulled. If you are just shoving your gun into the holster without any care, your results are not likely to change with a 1/2 pound difference of trigger pull. It's not the slightly lighter trigger pull that makes the PPQ's trigger superior to the Glock's. It's the whole package of trigger characteristics that makes the difference. Along with the Walther you could also add models like the HK VP-9, Sig 230, and Steyr M/L-A1's that have great trigger packages out of the box.
Tactical Jackalope
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"Grip angle" = laughing out loud.
Grown men are coming up with excuses of grip angle.
I switch from Glock to Sig to 1911's to a Jericho 941, Revolver, Hk P30, Browning High-Power, etc etc etc without an issue. Ever. I recall being 21 and making up excuses to help me sleep at night. But that was washed away...
Every gun I mentioned is accurate, reliable, etc etc etc. Not just Glock. But give it a try. I can name a Moderator here that was like you and now he loves his G19. But I won't out him like that lol.
Grown men are coming up with excuses of grip angle.
I switch from Glock to Sig to 1911's to a Jericho 941, Revolver, Hk P30, Browning High-Power, etc etc etc without an issue. Ever. I recall being 21 and making up excuses to help me sleep at night. But that was washed away...
Every gun I mentioned is accurate, reliable, etc etc etc. Not just Glock. But give it a try. I can name a Moderator here that was like you and now he loves his G19. But I won't out him like that lol.
Spats McGee
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I'm in the "you already own it, so give it a little more of a chance" camp. From the sounds of the opening post, you're underwhelmed, but the gun didn't give you (OP) an undeniable "ick, I hate it" feeling. Had that been the case, I'd say you should cut your losses. As it is, I'd give it a few hundred more rounds. If you still dislike it sell it. It's not like the market for used Glocks is going to dry up next week.
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9ballbilly
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I agree with others that you should put more rounds down range before deciding.
However, if you're already convinced that the grip is not right for you then more shooting probably won't change your mind.
FWIW I think Glock makes an excellent product, but personally I just can't get past their esthetics. I wouldn't trade my old Browning Hi-power for any three Glocks. Part of the reason I own guns is that I like the guns I own.
However, if you're already convinced that the grip is not right for you then more shooting probably won't change your mind.
FWIW I think Glock makes an excellent product, but personally I just can't get past their esthetics. I wouldn't trade my old Browning Hi-power for any three Glocks. Part of the reason I own guns is that I like the guns I own.
BigMikey76
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If you like it, keep it. If you don't, don't. I see no reason to keep using something that is not what you want/need it to be when there are so many other options out there that may be more comfortable for you.
Think of it in other terms - if you bought a new pair of shoes that felt fine at the store, but they started to pinch your toes after more extended wear, would you keep wearing them just because a lot of other people find them comfortable? I wouldn't. I would find something that works for me and my feet. In the same way, I think you will be better served by finding a gun that works for you and your hands, regardless of whether it works for other people.
Think of it in other terms - if you bought a new pair of shoes that felt fine at the store, but they started to pinch your toes after more extended wear, would you keep wearing them just because a lot of other people find them comfortable? I wouldn't. I would find something that works for me and my feet. In the same way, I think you will be better served by finding a gun that works for you and your hands, regardless of whether it works for other people.
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Glocks work for me - I actually prefer the grip angle.
When I first tried shooting one it did take some getting used to, but it felt "good-different" not "unnatural".
I'd say if it feels unnatural the grip angle is probably not for you.
Get something else.
There are plenty of other companies out there that make guns just as reliable and with a flatter grip.
Why spend time/money shooting something you don't enjoy all that much?
When I first tried shooting one it did take some getting used to, but it felt "good-different" not "unnatural".
I'd say if it feels unnatural the grip angle is probably not for you.
Get something else.
There are plenty of other companies out there that make guns just as reliable and with a flatter grip.
Why spend time/money shooting something you don't enjoy all that much?
It does seem like you may not have enough rounds through it to really have given it a good go. Maybe a hundred or so more?
However, to those that scoff at angle-preference and "feel" I would compare it to the experiences of musicians with instruments. An instrument can be a highly crafted functionally superior work of art, but if just doesn't "feel right" you're not going to get your best music out of it. You will probably be able to train yourself to use it, but how much effort do you want to put into something that doesn't feel natural? Especially if there are other options that already make the music flow easily.
And what about the $ angle here? Should you really have to spend the price of a gun in ammo to get used to something that you might -or might not- end up liking?
However, to those that scoff at angle-preference and "feel" I would compare it to the experiences of musicians with instruments. An instrument can be a highly crafted functionally superior work of art, but if just doesn't "feel right" you're not going to get your best music out of it. You will probably be able to train yourself to use it, but how much effort do you want to put into something that doesn't feel natural? Especially if there are other options that already make the music flow easily.
And what about the $ angle here? Should you really have to spend the price of a gun in ammo to get used to something that you might -or might not- end up liking?
Ammo is simply the cost of shooting and learning anything. If youre not willing to expend it in learning, then you likely wont be good with any of them.
If you have a reasonable base down, and can already shoot reasonably well, it doesnt take a lot of ammo to transition between what you have experience with, and what you dont. Dry fire actually easily remedies that too, and will shorten the learning curve considerably.
As with anything new, things usually start out a little rough, until you gain experience, and then the bad points seem to mysteriously disappear.
If you have to "think" about anything while handling and/or shooting the gun, you dont have enough experience with it.
If you have a reasonable base down, and can already shoot reasonably well, it doesnt take a lot of ammo to transition between what you have experience with, and what you dont. Dry fire actually easily remedies that too, and will shorten the learning curve considerably.
As with anything new, things usually start out a little rough, until you gain experience, and then the bad points seem to mysteriously disappear.
If you have to "think" about anything while handling and/or shooting the gun, you dont have enough experience with it.
Strafer Gott
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IMHO, the Glock tech is a little long in the tooth, and better options exist.
Stevie-Ray
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This is certainly true and I'd be the first to admit it, just as 1911s are definitely not for everyone. They ARE for me, and so are the 2 Glocks that I have. But 150 rounds is definitely enough to know that it is just not growing on you, and may not ever. I went this route with a HKUSPC, after only 100 rounds. I kept shooting it for at least another 200 rounds, but still ended up replacing it with a 1911 that I truly love, and have carried for over 12 years.