I think its great that these glock 36's are sittin on the shelves, ya know it serves Gaston right, after introducing the dumb thing and then not actually getting it to market for a year plus. But, my point is-they need a thin 26/27. My prediction is steyr will introduce something along this line and beat them to it- with any luck. Dave
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Steyr?! Ugghh!
If they do, I imagine they'll sit as well.
Glock was just trying to appeal to a small niche not already covered by the rest of their line. Some like the new 36, I'm not a fan of the lumbering obese one it's chambered for, nor a fan of any single stack pistols 'cept my Kel-Tec P-32.
I'd like to see Kel-Tec make a P-380, similar to the P-32, slightly larger if necessary. Now that would SELL!
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Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
If they do, I imagine they'll sit as well.
Glock was just trying to appeal to a small niche not already covered by the rest of their line. Some like the new 36, I'm not a fan of the lumbering obese one it's chambered for, nor a fan of any single stack pistols 'cept my Kel-Tec P-32.
I'd like to see Kel-Tec make a P-380, similar to the P-32, slightly larger if necessary. Now that would SELL!
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Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!
I am a recent owner of the 36 and am a big fan. I've been carrying the 26 for over a year but ahve always preferred the .45. I didn't care for the 30's feel and width but understand the appeal to some who want 10 rounds.
I carried a revolver for so long (5-shot j-frame) that the 36 is like an old friend. It totally disappears for concealed carry and that's the reason I bought it.
It shoots straight, is far more manageable than the old Star PD I used to carry in the back country, and like all the Glocks I own, goes bang every time.
I carried a revolver for so long (5-shot j-frame) that the 36 is like an old friend. It totally disappears for concealed carry and that's the reason I bought it.
It shoots straight, is far more manageable than the old Star PD I used to carry in the back country, and like all the Glocks I own, goes bang every time.
Claemore70
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I just don't get it. The single stacks just don't make any sense to me. I know it's an individual thing, and all that, but I concealed a Glock 29 forever w/o a problem. Then there's the Kel-Tec. If you cant conceal that there's a problem. And it's double stack. What's the deal?
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I was one of those who was waiting with baited breath 
for the single stack Glock 45acp. Have shot it and fondled it much but will not buy one. It just don't feel right to me. I purch the USP compact instead. Cut the HK grip size by 1 round and thats what the Glock 36 should've been, IMO.
for the single stack Glock 45acp. Have shot it and fondled it much but will not buy one. It just don't feel right to me. I purch the USP compact instead. Cut the HK grip size by 1 round and thats what the Glock 36 should've been, IMO.The G36 is a good gun BUT . . .
Glock tradtionalists don't like it probably because it does not feel like a Glock in your hand. Most of us are used to a double stacked Glock.
Gaston should have segmented his product line better than this.
Sorry 9 x 19 but your marketing analysis is a tad off base. There are already several Glocks that hold more ammo and are just as light as the G36 such as the G26/27/29/30. His offerring was already strong in the CCW market.
What do you think most off duty cops and civilians were already carrying. Heck, with a letter from your LEA, you can get a G26/27 for $399 and it will take your G19/23/17/22 duty mags.
Perhaps Gaston should have looked into opening a small plant here in the US and started working on a small .380 or .32 ACP mini-subcompact to angle into the NAA Guardian, Kel Tec P-32, Colt Mustang market.
Seecamp is looking into a .380 ACP pocket rocket as we speak since Kel Tec has eaten into his .32 ACP market share.
Maybe Gaston should consider a G21 long slide competition model that would be just as accurate as a Daly/Bauer/Thunder Ranch/Kimber/Colt finely tuned 1911 but in polymer.
I've shot several boxes of ammo through my range's G36. It is just as accurate as my G30 but not as comfotable to shoot and you can feel the recoil increase.
Once again, when it ain't broke, don't mess with it.
Gaston put his foot in his mouth on this one and even Glocksters aren't buying it.
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Glock tradtionalists don't like it probably because it does not feel like a Glock in your hand. Most of us are used to a double stacked Glock.
Gaston should have segmented his product line better than this.
Sorry 9 x 19 but your marketing analysis is a tad off base. There are already several Glocks that hold more ammo and are just as light as the G36 such as the G26/27/29/30. His offerring was already strong in the CCW market.
What do you think most off duty cops and civilians were already carrying. Heck, with a letter from your LEA, you can get a G26/27 for $399 and it will take your G19/23/17/22 duty mags.
Perhaps Gaston should have looked into opening a small plant here in the US and started working on a small .380 or .32 ACP mini-subcompact to angle into the NAA Guardian, Kel Tec P-32, Colt Mustang market.
Seecamp is looking into a .380 ACP pocket rocket as we speak since Kel Tec has eaten into his .32 ACP market share.
Maybe Gaston should consider a G21 long slide competition model that would be just as accurate as a Daly/Bauer/Thunder Ranch/Kimber/Colt finely tuned 1911 but in polymer.
I've shot several boxes of ammo through my range's G36. It is just as accurate as my G30 but not as comfotable to shoot and you can feel the recoil increase.
Once again, when it ain't broke, don't mess with it.
Gaston put his foot in his mouth on this one and even Glocksters aren't buying it.
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The Seattle SharpShooter - TFL/GT/UGW/PCT/KTOG
USA land of the 45acp. A great deal of shooters like the 45 but they did not like the feel of the double stack 45's offered by Glock. Your taste differs so what. Why continue making 9mm guns when you can stuff the 40 into the same platform? Why ask Why? There are so many reasons(recoil, same caliber as main gun, availability of ammo, etc).
I would like a single-stack Glock in 9mm Parabellum or .40 S&W.
Something a little bit smaller than a G19, but slimmer grip.
Skorzeny
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Something a little bit smaller than a G19, but slimmer grip.
Skorzeny
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For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme excellence. Sun Tzu
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bk40:
I was one of those who was waiting with baited breath for the single stack Glock 45acp. Have shot it and fondled it much but will not buy one. It just don't feel right to me. I purch the USP compact instead. Cut the HK grip size by 1 round and thats what the Glock 36 should've been, IMO.[/quote]
"Baited" breath? Stop eating the fish. It's "bated" breath.
Gaston needs to develop a trigger that doesn't feel like you're folding a credit card in half. Then he needs to count his pinky as part of the grip platform for shooting.
I was one of those who was waiting with baited breath
for the single stack Glock 45acp. Have shot it and fondled it much but will not buy one. It just don't feel right to me. I purch the USP compact instead. Cut the HK grip size by 1 round and thats what the Glock 36 should've been, IMO.[/quote]"Baited" breath? Stop eating the fish. It's "bated" breath.
Gaston needs to develop a trigger that doesn't feel like you're folding a credit card in half. Then he needs to count his pinky as part of the grip platform for shooting.
CastleBravo
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Um, are you for real? The 36 DOES have a place to put your pinky. It's the big grip-shaped thing stuck to the bottom of the mag. Hmmmm. Tricky.
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PreserveFreedom
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It's called "variety". We all know Glock makes the best pistols out there. Why not get a few "different" designs out so those that dislike one may like another. It's a gradual way to corner the market.
As for some of the posts on Glocks for the past few days...If Glocks could suck, who would need a wife?
As for some of the posts on Glocks for the past few days...If Glocks could suck, who would need a wife?
VictorLouis
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Ed2K, I'm with you. The treatment should have been done to the M21 first. Thinner in the slide, with an(at least) 8rd. mag. I think a few 1911 aficionados would've jumped ship for that one.
I really don't understand why Glock designed the G30 and G36 with such short grips and then put that massive extension/finger rest on the magazine. Feels terrible in my hand and doesn't make any sense.
I would, however, be very interested in single stack versions of the 19 and the 21, if only for the fact that I hate the idea of carrying a double stack gun with a 10 round mag and am too cheap to buy pre-bans.
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Alfadog
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"DO NOT TAKE COUNSEL OF YOUR FEARS."
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I would, however, be very interested in single stack versions of the 19 and the 21, if only for the fact that I hate the idea of carrying a double stack gun with a 10 round mag and am too cheap to buy pre-bans.
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Alfadog
NRA Life Member
"DO NOT TAKE COUNSEL OF YOUR FEARS."
--G. S. Patton, Jr., Lt. Gen., USA, 6 March 1944
Maybe Gaston should consider a G21 long slide competition model that would be just as accurate as a Daly/Bauer/Thunder Ranch/Kimber/Colt finely tuned 1911 but in polymer.
Speaking only for myself, I own a G21 and shoot IDPA with it, right out of the box. I have found it to be VERY accurate, as long as I do my job. The slide is PLENTY long, in my opinion.
Speaking only for myself, I own a G21 and shoot IDPA with it, right out of the box. I have found it to be VERY accurate, as long as I do my job. The slide is PLENTY long, in my opinion.
Bullwinkle
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Gaston blew chunks with the 36.
If you are trying to make a thin, concealable, compact, CCW piece it why in the world would you start with the fattest cartridge? No matter how thin you make a 45 its going to be 0.05 thicker than a 9 or 40 that you put on the same thickness loss program. A 36 that was thinned 0.05 and chambered for 10mm would be the ticket; same gun but shave off a fingers worth of grip and chamber it for 40Liberty and it would be winner too; thin the 40 gun some more, chop the barrel and chamber for 9 and you'll kill off the Kahr MKs; wack the grip and thin some more and you kill off the seacamps, keltech,guardians. I realize its easier to say than do but that's why engineers make so much money.
My guess is he though he was tapping into the American shooters love for the 45. Problem is, most CCW'ers who are interested in smaller/thinner long ago got over the "nothing else will do" attitude WRT the 45.
If you are trying to make a thin, concealable, compact, CCW piece it why in the world would you start with the fattest cartridge? No matter how thin you make a 45 its going to be 0.05 thicker than a 9 or 40 that you put on the same thickness loss program. A 36 that was thinned 0.05 and chambered for 10mm would be the ticket; same gun but shave off a fingers worth of grip and chamber it for 40Liberty and it would be winner too; thin the 40 gun some more, chop the barrel and chamber for 9 and you'll kill off the Kahr MKs; wack the grip and thin some more and you kill off the seacamps, keltech,guardians. I realize its easier to say than do but that's why engineers make so much money.
My guess is he though he was tapping into the American shooters love for the 45. Problem is, most CCW'ers who are interested in smaller/thinner long ago got over the "nothing else will do" attitude WRT the 45.
My range has a LNIB G36 for $599 with about 200 rounds through it. HHHhhhmmm.
Today, if you don't make a quick profit, it shouldn't be done. Gaston isn't making that much money that he can afford to R&D or demo a product for the market. Think Amazon.com and tell me about "variety."
The darn things still aren't selling.
The worst intro by Glock to date.
Oh well, my other Glocks rock hard!
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The Seattle SharpShooter - TFL/GT/UGW/PCT/KTOG
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Today, if you don't make a quick profit, it shouldn't be done. Gaston isn't making that much money that he can afford to R&D or demo a product for the market. Think Amazon.com and tell me about "variety."
The darn things still aren't selling.
The worst intro by Glock to date.
Oh well, my other Glocks rock hard!
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The Seattle SharpShooter - TFL/GT/UGW/PCT/KTOG
[This message has been edited by jtduncan (edited July 28, 2000).]