Glock sights: Fixed vs. nightsites

Johnwill, two things:

1) Instead of just going in the darkroom and closing the door, try letting your eyes adjust to the darkness. You need to be in darkness at least 15min before your eyes totally adjust, and you will see that yes they do illuminate you.

2) Check the batteries in your "night vision monocular", 'cause it aint working.

Also, you guys can believe whatever you want, certainly don't take my word for it; I wouldn't. GO TAKE A CLASS, YOU WILL SEE THE LIGHT.
 
If anybody is in my house in the middle of the night and I got my Glock19 out, I will not try to be stealthy or tactical. I will be offensive...I do not want to confront someone in my house and would rather have them realize that there is an armed nasty upstairs and have them beat feet trying to get away. I will be stealthy when I am hunting and scouting game or playing paint ball. BUT if you do not belong in my house I will let you know I have locked and loaded and I am ready.

Most of the time a home invader will leave when they find out someone is home.


IMNSHO I feel that an semi auto pistol and or a shotgun is more of an offensive weapon. I now carry a S&W Mod 60 because I feel revolvers are more of a defensive weapon.

BTW my G19 has trilux night sights on it and my S&W mod 66 has a mepro front sight insert.

Brian
 
There are many excellent sights on the market for target and long distance shooting. They narrow your vision for long distance accuracy - if you have the time, opportunity and clear field. In other words, they are great for the 50 yard range.

But in defense shooting the space is closer, the time is shorter, the adrenaline is rushing into your bloodstream and tunnel vision is kicking in, and you may have to deal with the distractions of one or more BGs, bystanders and your environment (field) for a clear and safe shot.

The AO Big Dot Sights allow you to place the front sight on the target quicker than other sights. Also, the rear sight opens up your vision better than any other sight I've seen. For self protection you want to keep it simple and practical.

Night sites main advantage is to improve your ability to place the front site on the target in "low " light conditions. The AO Big Dot Tritiums are the best sights for concealed carry and defense shooting. I have them on all my carry guns.
 
1) Instead of just going in the darkroom and closing the door, try letting your eyes adjust to the darkness. You need to be in darkness at least 15min before your eyes totally adjust, and you will see that yes they do illuminate you.

2) Check the batteries in your "night vision monocular", 'cause it aint working.

Also, you guys can believe whatever you want, certainly don't take my word for it; I wouldn't. GO TAKE A CLASS, YOU WILL SEE THE LIGHT.
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Let's address them one at a time.

1) I did spend at least 10 minutes tinkering around, but probably not 15, I didn't want to be in the dark with just another guy that long. :) I also doubt a perp will be in the dark that long either.

2) I said it "didn't change the view", I saw no observable difference in the illumination with or without the night sights. My night vision rig works fine, thank you.

TAKE A CLASS??? What does that mean? They have classes in night sights illuminating you?

Now, I have a suggestion for you. Try the experiment like I did, because I just repeated it, and I did wait 15 minutes in total darkness. I didn't have a friend, so I took both guns with night sights and propped them up with a piece of white paper about one foot away, simulating the white face. I even drew a crude face on it, so I would have some features. I could see absolutely no trace of the white paper after 15 minutes, only total darkness. With the night vision, I could also see almost nothing, and there was no change with the sights all covered with a dark cloth or without. Remember, there is a minimum amount of light to trigger even the best night vision equipment, and mine is just a 1st generation unit. However, I feel that if I can't see the effect of the illumination with a light gain of 3000-4000, some guy wandering around in my living room sure isn't going to see it either!

I'd like for you to point to "any" reference where there's a caution about night sights and the effect you are worred about, because I can't buy it based on actual evidence. I've never read anything on the topic, nor heard of anyone saying that it was considered an issue.

I suppose that if this guy is out there with 3rd generation night vision goggles, the night sights may make a difference in what he sees, but I'll bet he wouldn't need that effect if he was that well equipped! :)
 
STOP

After a few years shooting in low-and-no light conditions indoors my idea of 'nightsights' is a good flashlight.
(Ahhhhh, my Milletts are -okay- if there's still a bit of ambient.)

I see no real harm in them, except the overconfident BS I keep reading.............

"Hey! It's DARK! I can't see!"

(Sound of suprised operators who thought equipment works as hyped LOL.)
 
As I recall, it takes 30-45 minutes to dark adapt.

How close does somebody have to be to be able to see you in the glow of your night sights?

Best bet: Sleep in your NVG's
:rolleyes:

Woody
 
Mine must be broken

All 3 sets of Trijicon night sights on my 3 Glocks won't Illuminate my facial profile in total darkness enclosed in a 10x15 room.This all done in total darkness and mirrored observation.Looks like they're deffective or I'm not using the right eye.And these night sights are less then 4 years old.I don't buy it.SAFE-SHOOTING!
 
I still think that if you're worried about your night sights illuminating your face, you are spending way too much time thinking about the wrong problem! :D
 
Such emotion over sights.:rolleyes: I've got Mepros on my Glock and Mepros on my Redhawk. I've tossed this around in my head for awhile and took them camping, around the house, and for walks around the hood.

I've come to the conclusion that they are'nt all they're hyped to be but are useful at times and sure don't hurt. In the woods I like them. The walk back to camp at dusk is when they are useful (and at pre/dawn). There's enough light in the air to see game but not enough in the shadows to pick up the sights quickly, hence good application.

In the house and outside in the city they are good if the lighting is not totally gone, which it usually is not, starlight, streetlights and such. Your perp may not be identifiably visible by vision but will identify himself as a threat by his actions and speech. They would have good effect in this situation. (I also beleive that this situation would not violate rule #4 because threatening behavior and speech patterns will let you know if you have a threat, and exigent circumstances May releive you of the 'and what is beyond' portion of the rule.) Use your noggin' for your particular situation as it arises, god forbid.

I like them. They May make the difference in a low light encounter, and are much preferable IMO, to having a red flashlight on your gun (Laser), which would draw fire for sure.

That being said, Last I went for a walk at night, I carried my Colt without nite-sights. Muscle memory and brains work in a pinch too...So I guess what I'm saying is, I could take em or leave em.

I couldn't change a fuel pump at night on the highway with my night sights, but I ventilated my hood! (not really).:D
 
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