Glock problem

Check your ammo, your G-17 may be ammo sensitive. Try a different bullet profile.

Check your magazine springs and follower (the little plastic thing that sits on top of the magazine spring).

Check for rough spots/burrs/tool marks on the barrel ramp.

Keep shooting untill the problem is no longer a problem. I don't care what anyone says, no firearm is 100% perfect 100% all the time.
 
Sorry dc, didn't mean to upset you...I'm still a little confused, though. You state that

recoiling mass must have something to provide resistance, and that the shooter may absorb some amount of the energy of the recoiling mass -- varying amounts, even, depending on how it's held

and yet you continue to discount the possibility that that MIGHT be the cause of the problem. Again, we don't know without having the gun in hand.

BTW...I don't know about the short stroking thing: that wouldn't grab a round and try to shove it forward.

I do KNOW, however, that limp wristing a handgun can cause no end of difficulties.
 
Qui a Hesu Gaston Glock, Nona a es requiem

Repeat chant three times Hit yourself in the head with your G-17:o

Glock Malfunction, NOT POSSIBLE see thebox that came with the Gun it Clearly SAYS: GLOCK PERFECTION.

You SIR are defective NOT THE GLOCK.:barf:

And by the way that magazine that holds ten rounds is a George Bush I Magazine.;)
 
I've seen it happen

S&W Sigma, 100% reliable with over 1000 rounds.

Introducing a small petite woman to shooting 9mm. FTF on first three shots. I thought it was going to jump out of her hands she was "limp wristing" it so badly. Finally got her lock her wrist and problem went away.

I'm convinced.

The mechanics seem simple to me. The transfer of recoil energy to the slide/barrel system acts against a "fixed" (immobile) receiver and the return-force of the recoil spring. If the reciever had no resistance to movement, only it's mass (at rest) resisting movement would provide any "differential" against the recoil spring's force and the slide's inertia, thus the pistol would just move in near unison. So somewhere between near-unison and full-function is a "limp wristed" malfunction.

Isn't this basically right?
 
Hey im sure you are limp wristing had the same problom when i got my G17 months ago. I asked the same Questions. Try GlockTalk.com
Real good site also,they love to help with Glock questions.
 
Where are you resting your thumbs? I have seen shooters experience this problem due to placing their thumbs closely to the slide and touching it. There was enough of a braking effect to not let the slide cycle properly. Usually I’ve seen it happen to 1911 owners who are used to riding the safety transitioning to Glock pistols.
 
Actually, ...


... the problem under discussion could be caused by what experienced pistoleros sometimes refer to as, "limp-wristing, plus."

This syndrome is said to be a combination of limp-wristing, plus flinching, plus the failure to hit the decaf button when having a few cups before heading to the range. :D
 
This is a fairly common problem with 10 round Glock 9mm mags.
Most times I've heard about it, the magazine has 2183 stamped on the follower.
Call Glock Inc and ask them to send you some "9mm3" followers
(should be free), and replace them.
The 2183 follower is mostly flat with a little ramp on the front, the 9mm3 follower is shaped much differently to guide the rounds into the chamber better.
If you already have 9mm3's, the mag springs, limp wristing, inadvertantly thumbing the slide stop lever are all possible causes as well.
Also, go to glocktalk.com and do a search for 2183 and you'll see many people with the same problem.
Hope this helps.
 
Ok, I took my new 17 to the range, loaded it up and rapid fired 11 rounds down range without a hitch. Then I handed it to a female friend with large hands and little shooting expierence. Stovepipe! I cleared it, shot it(10 remaining rounds), reloaded it and gave it back to friend. Stovepipe! I checked her hold(on the gun) and it was fine. Stovepipe! I personally never had a failure. Then I handed a g17 to my wife (non-gunner) and she shot 17 rounds limpwristing it all the way with no failures. There must be one way of holding a g17 that results in failures to feed. My first shooting expierence was a walther ppk that jammed on the first round. After about 200 or so rounds I have had essentially zero failures from any gun I've shot. Perhaps shooting lots of lead down range (forget the target) is the best way to feel out a gun and get used to it!

PS: I think my wife liked it!!:D
 
FTF (Failure To Feed) is most likely not a "limp-wristing" issue; "limp-wristing" usually shows up as Failure To Eject (AKA "Stovepiping" or "Smokestacking").

BTW, Master Blaster:

And by the way that magazine that holds ten rounds is a George Bush I Magazine.

The magazine restrictions were passed in the Crime Bill of 1994. Quick! Run get a history book and see who'd been President for two years already in 1994. ;)
 
The use of no-knock searches became a routine law enforcement tool during the Reagan Administration in which George Bush was vice-president, and intensified in Bush's administration when Bush ginned up the war on drugs while paying scant attention to Constitutional rights.

Although Bush didn't say so, the NRA's criticism of lawless federal law enforcement is indirect criticism of Bush himself. The killings of Donald Scott and the Weavers were perpetrated under the Bush administration. The Waco attack was perpetrated in the early weeks of the Clinton Presidency, but the planning took place under Bush.

George Bush's membership in the NRA was a cynical charade from the beginning. He only joined in 1988, shortly before his run for President, plunking down $500 to make himself an instant "life member." The $500 was a good investment for him, since the NRA made a six million dollar independent expenditure for him in the general election, turning what would have been a close race into a landslide, by providing Bush's margin of victory in states such as Michigan, Pennsylvania, Montana, and Maryland.

Bush had written a public letter in September 1988, declaring his opposition to banning guns, but the promise did not survive the first few weeks of the Presidency. The Bush administration not only banned the imports of dozens of types of semi-automatic rifles, it proposed a ban on magazines holding more than 15 rounds, offered to sign the Brady Bill and an extensive ban on semiautomatic firearms in exchange for passage of an administration crime bill with other civil liberties restrictions, and never exerted the slightest effort to help pro-gun forces win close Congressional votes.

While the Bush White House treated the NRA with contempt, and froze it out of gun policy discussions, Mr. Bush apparently felt himself wronged when the NRA refused to endorse him in 1992 (a fact which he forgets to mention in his self-righteous resignation letter).

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Dave Kopel is Research Director of the Independence Institute in Golden, Colorado.

The Bush administration not only banned the imports of dozens of types of semi-automatic rifles, it proposed a ban on magazines holding more than 15 rounds, offered to sign the Brady Bill and an extensive ban on semiautomatic firearms in exchange for passage of an administration crime bill with other civil liberties restrictions, and never exerted the slightest effort to help pro-gun forces win close Congressional votes.
 
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