Glock parts recomendation?

Wow, thanks for all the help people. I knew about the 40 to 357 conversion but I had no idea it could be done for 9mm. Would I have to change anything else besides the barrel and mags? I would think that the springs would be too tight for the lighter recoiling 9.
 
Not sure about the spring. Some guns, like the P99, use the same spring for 9mm and .40. I'm sure the vendor would advise you of the correct materials.
 
I was just looking at the Glockmeister website. They carry KKM barrels to convert a G23 to 9mm. They warn not to use for defense, just practice (fair enough), and recommend replacing the extractor and ejector (I've heard they work fine with the standard 23 parts in place: not really worth doing if you have to change a bunch of parts). The G23 and G19 do use the same recoil spring, so you don't have to change that.

The barrel is $164 and the G19 mags are $19.50 each.

Topglock has EKM 9mm conversion barrels for $139.

You can't use the longer G17/G22 barrel in a 23.
 
cs138,
Check out www.ammolab.com for ballistic info on the 357sig round. I have a Glock 32 and I can tell you it's one fun round to shoot. Not much recoil than a .40 and it's pretty accurate (in the right hands. ;) )
 
Spring rates.

The Glock 19, 23, and 32 use the same spring/guiderod part number.

The Glock 26/27/33 use the same spring/guiderod part number.

Therefor, you shouldn't have to change springs when changing calibers.

Many of us put a "heavier" spring in our 23/32's, though. If you choose to go this route, I suggest an ISMI flat wound spring on the stock Glock guiderod. You'll have to remove the old stock glock spring from the guiderod, though.

-z
 
I just installed a 3.5# connector last night and the trigger is just how I like it now. To make things even better the instalation was a breeze. I dont know why anyone would need a gunsmith to do the job.
 
So you put a target trigger in your defense gun? I guess 5.5 lbs. too heavy? Well, keep your finger, holster thumbbrake, sticks and anything else out of the trigger guard.
 
Glad your happy CS138, the 3.5# connector is my favorite for my defense guns as well. Might want to try adding a NY trigger spring to it if you want a more revolver like pull (some like it some don't).

As for safety concerns the 3.5 connector actually just drops the pull about 1- 1 1/2 pounds. If your finger, a stick, thumbreak etc. was going to set a 4# pull off I'd suggest it would likely do the same with a 5.5# pull. Suppose if a guy was that worried about it he could use a NY2 spring and 5# connector to get a 10+# pull. But if I was that worried about it I think I'd just get another type of gun anyway.
 
My holster completely covers the trigger guard so Im not at all worried about safety. Its by no means a hair trigger; I just dont put my finger in untill Im ready to put holes in something.
 
cs138,
The initial trigger "take up" is the trigger bar depressing the firing pin safety plunger.

Where it starts to get stiff is where it starts compressing the actual striker spring.
 
I figure my trigger job cost me about $18 and I got a 3 lb. trigger that approaches the trigger on a 1911. Here's what I did: remove the plating and polish the striker, striker release, firing pin safety release, firing pin safety and where the 3.5 lb. connectror rubs. Install a 4 lb. striker and trigger spring. I used JB bore cleaner and a soft wheel on a Dremel to polish these surfaces. DO NOT change the angle on the striker or the striker release (that's on the bar that's connected to the trigger). Important--you must get thru the plating to really polish the surfaces to a mirror finish. For a schematic of Glock parts go to www.glockmart.com and scroll to Glock parts.
 
The Duck describes a pistol that is perfect for the target range and nowhere else.

These are combat pistols and deserve respect for the amount of damage they can do, even accidentally. Since you are not backed up by a safety, the best trigger is the one with the heaviest pull that doesn't affect your shooting. The 3.5 connector was built for target guns, 17L, 34, 35. There was no intention on the part of the designers for that part to be used for duty, and there certainly isn't a need. The fact that no Police or military organization would allow such a mod should tell you something. It's bad enough to shoot yourself in the leg, but the bystander you shoot is going to hurt a lot more.

It's a shame people are so hung up on performance and gadgetry that they would unnecessarily sacrifice safety by putting target triggers on combat guns. That attitude scares me.
 
Max, your description is incorrect. On the Glock the initial pull takes the striker from the mid point to full aft. The hard click at the end is the contact with the connector and subsequent striker release. You can't really feel the firing pin block release.
 
My, my, my learn your gun and it won't go off till you want it to. You may want to put up with a crappy trigger pull but don't condem the rest of us to one! These are the ways to a good trigger pull use them if you want one or stick to the factory trigger. The decision is yours, I choose the better trigger on my G23 and yes I do carry it every day.
 
Duck,

There isn't a reputable 1911 gunsmith alive that would put a 3 lbs. trigger on a carry gun. Why do you know better?

This "keep your finger off the trigger, dummy" attitude largely started as a Glock owner defense back when the cops first started shooting themselves with stock guns. While a good rule, it was never an element in proper firearms design. How untrained gun owners become ergonomic engineering experts by reading stuff on the internet is beyond me. You don't know how you'll handle a gun under stress, but maybe the firearms engineers had a clue when they built the gun.
 
Under stress you instinctively do what youve practiced and trained yourself to do. If you train and practice to see the whole picture and who and what is near your target then thats what you will instintively do. Not everyone is a nervouse wreck under pressure.
 
I am a military helicopter pilot. We are VERY well trained. I practice loosing engines, landing without any engine, landing without tail rotor control and flying without any visual reference. I've seen how well trained people handle stress. Sometimes textbook, sometimes forgetting the most obvious things.

Are you training with your off hand?
Do you practice blindfold gun retrieval?
Gun retention?
Shooting with a different finger?
Jams?
Out of breath?
Single hand reloads?
Point shooting?

Did you do everything you could training wise before you started bypassing the safeties in your weapon? The ONLY maunal safety in a Glock is the trigger. Did you practice every situation that involves handling that gun to the point where mechanical safety can be lowered?

Will your actual gunfight be anything at all like your fantasy gunfight?

What's the limit? 5lbs.? 3lbs.? 5 ounces? Who decided?
 
More to the point:

Can anyone quote a reputable firearms instructor, training school or military law/enforcement branch that recommends lowering the overall trigger weight of the Glock for defensive use?

The only this I can think of along those lines is Ayoob's recommendation of the NY trigger.

So where are you guys getting all this knowledge?
 
Some of us make up our own mind. Others wait for "the experts" to tell us what to do. Usually "experts" are trained by other "experts" and on and on, etc. As I stated in another thread you want to put up with a crappy trigger pull, that's fine with me. I do not care to do so. By the way all 7 of my 1911s have 2 lb trigger pulls. Some done by gunsmiths before I learned how to do it myself. All have had the grip safety deactivated. I have also "made up my own mind" that I will not carry a Glock or a 1911 in cond 3. The hand guns I carry in cond 1 all start in the DA mode. I really don't care what the experts tell me now to carry, after 46 years of carring concealed I can make up my oun mind, but as I said to each his own.
 
DA mode is condition 2. Cocked and locked is condition 1. Your 3 pound Glock trigger qualifies as condition 0.

I'm therefore not sure what you meant by the "condition 1/ DA mode" comment. Do you carry a Glock or 1911 or only DA guns? This has always been a discussion about carry weapons.
 
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