Glock Handling (grip)

Regarding Miculek, he's in a nice video recently put out by iraqveteran on youtube. In it, as I recall, he uses something closer to picture #2, though he basically says that his thumbs serve no function and if anything only get in the way. He also doesn't use the index finger over the guard, and I believe I recently saw a video of Hickock45 on gripping where his singular firm piece of advice was not to place the finger on the finger guard front aspect. Hickock is still using the Weaver stance though. Both those videos are worth watching for tips.

Personally, I having done #1 early on, I did find my accuracy improve with grip number two, and I was surprised because it doesn't seem like you have as firm a grip on the gun. I will still sometime use the index finger on the trigger guard front aspect of my subcompact Kahr CW380, since it's easy to do, and since the gun begs for more grip on it with it being so darned tiny (and mildly snappy). Great shooting gun though once reliability is established.

Hickock is also unusual in that he never uses his pinky to grip the gun firmly, which is fine for subcompacts I think, but maybe not as useful for bigger guns. The best leverage against flip is in the lower aspect of the grip, so why not grip extra firmly there? You should I think (while still keeping the grip overall as high and close to the bore axis as possible.)

The other piece of advice from Miculek was to make sure your trigger finger has only one task, to pull the trigger, and not to drive the gun as he says, which can unconsciously happen, even for him occasionally he said.
 
support forefinger on front of trigger guard

I'm more like the first, but I put the forefinger (first finger) of my left (weak) hand on the front of the trigger guard. By pushing forward with my strong hand and backward with my weak hand, I get more stability of the gun.
 
2-ish

I shoot semis like number 2 more or less, my right thumb riding more on top of my left with thumbs parallel pointing toward the target. I probably started shooting more like 1, learned 2 and found it worked better for me.
 
Thanks for the responses guys.. I appreciate it. I used to use grip #1..then recently i started #2... I am more accurate with #2 thumbs forward. Like others have said, it just seems like you have less grip or control of the gun in your hand.. It just "feels" that way with grip #2..
 
Personally I would never use #2. It reduces the shooters ability to control recoil and muzzle flip.
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Wrong. The higher up you can grip the gun, the easier it is to manage recoil, because you decrease the moment arm measured from the center of the bore (less torque).
 
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One of the things that I've heard is that the strength of the grip should be 70% weak hand and 30% strong hand. The percentages vary, but the point is that don't want to grip so hard with your trigger hand that you influence/affect your trigger finger.

Accuracy depends on two main things. A good sight picture and a good pull of the trigger. Even when you start with a good sight picture, the way you pull the trigger determines where your final aim is as the bullet exits the muzzle. Your technique also depends on the kind of shooting you're doing. Shooting bullseye is a lot different from USPSA/IPSC and IDPA where speed (multiple shots in one second) plays a big part of your score. That also means that recoil control is more important, too, because you want to get back on target immediately.

The faster you pull the trigger the more a bad grip and trigger pull influence your aim. I used to hit low left. I experimented with a laser on my gun and determined that if I insert my finger up to, but not including my first finger joint, I was more accurate when shooting fast. The change was dramatic. Previously, I was closer to the tip, which caused me to push the side of the trigger and thus changing my aim. I have small hands, so I have to rotate my grip just a little.

So I went from OK scores (for me), to bad scores, to much better scores. I had changed the grip of my left hand by pointing it closer to a 45 deg. angle downward. This was to lock my wrist. Locking your wrist helps control recoil, but by making this change, my trigger finger had slipped towards the tip. Now I will have to concentrate how locking my wrist while keeping my trigger finger in the proper place.

When it comes to self-defense you won't be aiming, you'll most likely be point shooting because the Bad Guy will be within 5-7 yards or even closer. You'll also be under extreme stress and not have fine motor control. Faster shooting will probably be more important than fine aiming.
 
Glock Team Shooter Tori Nonaka has the best Glock grip I've ever seen

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Notice how her support wrist & forearm are locked straight & tight as a drumhead. If you're not feeling that tension in your support wrist & forearm, you're just not doing it right.
 
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