Glock gen 4 vs 5

But yes why do people buy the 17 over the 19? If they both have about same recoil and accuracy why wouldn’t everyone just go with smaller of the 2?
 
The 17 is considered a full-size duty weapon and is likely manufactured to compete in that role. The 19 is designed as its compact variant designed for concealed users or plain clothes officers. IIRC the FBI contract required both be made available to its agents.
 
Gen 5 Pros
The lack of finger groves feels better to the hand
Better Trigger
More accurate

Gen 5 Cons
Noticeably smaller magwell than Gen 4
Front cut out combined with back cut out makes it less forgiving with front to back mag placement during reloads
 
I like the Gen 5 better personally. In owning all of them the lack of finger grooves feels better to me, and the stock trigger is slightly better on the Gen 5. The new finish is something I really like, both in that it has been very scratch resistant and that I like it aesthetically. Beyond that, in disassembling them I like some of the minor internal changes on the Gen 5 and I do believe Glock when they say it is more durable than earlier gens. Now of course we have people with 100,000+ rds on Glocks, so is that extra durability essential? Probably not, but I still see it as a plus.


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CoffeeShooter: said:
But yes why do people buy the 17 over the 19? If they both have about same recoil and accuracy why wouldn’t everyone just go with smaller of the 2?
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I have both, and I got the Gen3 17 years before I got the Gen3 19. If I had gotten the 19 first I’m not sure I’d need the 17, since the 19 does pretty much everything that the 17 does & it’s easier to carry. But I still like that 17:)
 
The USP and its derivatives are tanks.
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I thought that also, until the sear spring on my .40-caliber USP Compact (LEM) fell out. Literally, it fell out on the bench as I was clearing the gun, while trying to figure out why it was not reliably popping the primers on Blazer Brass or aluminum rounds.

I had the sear spring put back in while a stronger mainspring was installed, so that it would fire all primers. And then I just replaced the USPc with a M&P 2.0 in .40. Once that H&K failed me at the range, I could no longer trust in it as a reliable self-defense weapon. The real damage here was to my confidence in the pistol.

My G19 Gen4 is a keeper. I see no need to go to a Gen5, but as mentioned above, if I was buying new I'd get the Gen5.

Bart Noir
 
To be fair, that's extremely rare to have the sear spring fall out. Sounds to me like someone had removed it and then reinstalled it (they really only work for one install). Same is true for the light strikes. Typically the hammer springs in those are oversprung if anything. Did someone swap in a different one?
 
CoffeeShooter said:
But yes why do people buy the 17 over the 19? If they both have about same recoil and accuracy why wouldn’t everyone just go with smaller of the 2?
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As someone noted, the G17 is a full-sized duty pistol. It holds a couple of extra rounds over the G19, has a little bit of a longer sight radius, and (I think) may have slightly different grip dimensions. There are some folks who either: (a) open carry, or (b) can effectively conceal a G17.
 
I had the sear spring put back in while a stronger mainspring was installed, so that it would fire all primers.
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How was HK customer service? It has been so long since I’ve dealt with them my experience is no longer relevant; but I am not a fan. I always felt like all they did was blame you for whatever went wrong and then ask an obscene price to hold your firearm hostage for an unspecified amount of time; but certainly no sooner than two months after you desperately needed it in any case.

I’ve been told that’s not the case anymore; but I remain skeptical.

As far as guns breaking, if I stopped trusting a gun because it broke a part I wouldn’t have anything left to carry. Even my Glocks have had the occasional parts failure (recoil spring assembly).
 
But yes why do people buy the 17 over the 19? If they both have about same recoil and accuracy why wouldn’t everyone just go with smaller of the 2?
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Some people want the extra two rounds, longer sight radius, and longer grip of the 17. It was designed as a full-size standard service pistol to be open-carried by a soldier or police officer, where concealing the pistol is not a concern.

The 19 is a bit more versatile. It's still suitable as a standard service pistol (and is used as such by many organizations, such as the NYPD, NSWC, and MARSOC). Yet its smaller size also makes it easier to conceal under garments (for plainclothes officers, civilians carrying concealed, etc.). It gives up two rounds with a standard magazine, but can still use the 17-round magazines of the Glock 17.
 
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