I've got a glock 26 and although I'm not the best hand gun shooter I can manage minute of criminal at 20 feet or so. I'm wanting to try a Sig 1911 in its place or go to a glock 19 with a little longer sight radius. I manage to shoot 38 and 357 single action revolvers much better but wanting thinner semi to help with my smaller hands. I like the same trigger pull consistently on the glock and am hoping to get to the range today to try a few 1911's before buying. Saw some fairly good reviews on Rugers new 1911 in 9 mm and would love to save some money but leaning towards a sig if they don't have a Ruger to rent out. Any ideas? FYI this is not for personal carry. Just in the house and console of truck.
Glock for 1911
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I have a number of Sigs, including a C3 45. It is a very nice shooter that I used to carry before I went to a 9 for the higher bb count. If the grip width on the Glock is what is troubling you then a 19 probably wont help. They are all chubby little girls 
. I am not a Glock fan boi so I acknowledge the mystical "grip issue". The low bore axis and different grip angle than everything else I have caused low, left groups when I started with mine. After a lot of rounds that went away so if it is the "feel" is throwing you, it can be worked around.
I recently put a RMR on my Sig 229 carry and spent a lot of rounds mating all the new slide parts together. I pulled my Glock out and go figure, I was shooting it low again after so much trigger time with a Sig. I just put a taller rear sight in it so see if I can drag the POI up some. There, at least for me, a difference in the way Glocks point.
I really have no input on the Ruger, just a general observation from personal history. If I am stepping into a brand new platform I have to have my head into the fact that there may be teething pains. Good reviews are for a single weapon representing the line, not every weapon within that line. I have had issues with "new" guns from Sig that had to go back. Most ran flawlessly, it can be a crap shoot.
. I am not a Glock fan boi so I acknowledge the mystical "grip issue". The low bore axis and different grip angle than everything else I have caused low, left groups when I started with mine. After a lot of rounds that went away so if it is the "feel" is throwing you, it can be worked around.I recently put a RMR on my Sig 229 carry and spent a lot of rounds mating all the new slide parts together. I pulled my Glock out and go figure, I was shooting it low again after so much trigger time with a Sig. I just put a taller rear sight in it so see if I can drag the POI up some. There, at least for me, a difference in the way Glocks point.
I really have no input on the Ruger, just a general observation from personal history. If I am stepping into a brand new platform I have to have my head into the fact that there may be teething pains. Good reviews are for a single weapon representing the line, not every weapon within that line. I have had issues with "new" guns from Sig that had to go back. Most ran flawlessly, it can be a crap shoot.
Longer sight radius won't help much if you are shooting minute of criminal at 20ft. Something more fundamental going on and switching to a 19 won't help. You won't find any trigger better than a good 1911 trigger. There are very good and acceptable striker fired triggers but in my experience they all have a much longer trigger pull and are generally heavier than a good 3lb 1911 trigger. You can manage them well enough but for me it takes considerable more focus.
I e looked at and handled a lot of the 1911's and the grip is way better than my stubby glock. I've got a glock in 380 that fits like a glove and I do shoot it a lot better but I'm reloading and also have about 1000 rounds of factory 9 mm. The colt commander in 45 fits my hands better than any semi I've ever held but I do shoot husbands fn in :5 and I can get through about 2 mags before my hands are hurting and the grips on it are larger than the glock. I don't think I could handle a small framed 45. Trigger breaks on the sig and the Springfield seem a lot better than the glock but I wouldn't know about follow up shots by dry firing.
A longer sight radius won't help if the pistol doesn't fit your hand either. You need to go shopping and try a few on for size, first. Then, since you mentioned renting, shoot the one(s) that fit.
The Commander sounds like the right pistol. Try one with Pachmayr rubber grips and different ammo. Said ammo doesn't have to be hotter than cast 230 grain RN's at roughly 800ish FPS.
"...Trigger breaks..." Forget the factory trigger. All new firearms require a trigger job out of the box. Frivolous law suits have caused the manufacturers to sell their pistols with poor triggers.
The Commander sounds like the right pistol. Try one with Pachmayr rubber grips and different ammo. Said ammo doesn't have to be hotter than cast 230 grain RN's at roughly 800ish FPS.
"...Trigger breaks..." Forget the factory trigger. All new firearms require a trigger job out of the box. Frivolous law suits have caused the manufacturers to sell their pistols with poor triggers.
Minute of criminal doesn't mean I can't hit with it. I usually just shoot head shots on silloutes at our outdoor range to keep ricochets off the ground. Only place I go is a rifle range and our closest berm is 25 yards so anything hitting lower than birm usually ticks the rifle shooter off when it bounces into his target. Head being highest part of silloutes is high enough on our -CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED-ty stubby target stands to shoot at. Don't know why a range thinks they have to have only 2 foot tall targets. All that aside I think the feel and lighter trigger might make a difference. I'm going to keep the glock 26 it's just me trying something else and I'm not as keen on striker fire. I do use my Beretta 92 FS some but don't want to cock it and the trigger pull for the first double action shot is way too heavy for my old hands.
boondocker385
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No offense meabt, but a lesson or two might be helpful. I say this as an instructor who takes lessons....
g.willikers
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Springfield 1911s seem to have very good triggers.
You might try a few of those before deciding.
Going from a Glock to a 1911 usually takes some getting used to, as they are very different.
But from your descriptions, in your situation that might not be such a problem.
Good hunting.
You might try a few of those before deciding.
Going from a Glock to a 1911 usually takes some getting used to, as they are very different.
But from your descriptions, in your situation that might not be such a problem.
Good hunting.
Aguila Blanca
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I would buy a Ruger 1911 before I'd buy a SIG 1911. In fact, I'd probably buy ANY brand of 1911 (other than Taurus) before I'd buy a SIG.Wendyj said:
SIG Arms makes some very fine handguns. However, IMHO they should never have undertaken to "improve" the 1911, because in their ill-advised attempts to do so they royally screwed the pooch. On the other hand, before Ruger jumped into the 1911 market they did their homework, and they knocked it out of the park.
marines6433
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Well OP, then I would go with a full sized government model then. You noted that you did not want to carry the piece, so I would tend to think the full size is the way to go. JMHO.
A full sized, 5" barreled, 1911...in 9mm....can be a great gun / small hands or larger hands...--- its just a great platform ( great triggers compared to any hinged trigger guns ...glocks, etc...) because the triggers in a 1911 move straight back and forth in the frame...vs suspended from a pin and move thru an arc.
My primary carry gun is a full sized 1911 in 9mm now ( I moved away from the .45 acp ) because of some arthritis in my hands and fingers over the years has taken a toll...10 + 1 in capacity is fine / and I just shoot the full sized 1911 better than any other gun.
In the entry level of 1911's --- under $ 1,000 or so you just have to find a gun that has the features you want with the best trigger. Any 1911 can be rebuilt to suit you ...but adding features and doing a trigger job can easily add a few hundred bucks. There are some subtle things - if you're new to 1911's ...the new Colts have quit checkering the front strap on the grip and so has Springfield on some models...I don't know off hand what Sig is doing on their 9mm's. Some guns have "bob tailed frames", ambi safeties, a mag well or speed chute...all things to consider.
My primary carry gun is a full sized 1911 in 9mm now ( I moved away from the .45 acp ) because of some arthritis in my hands and fingers over the years has taken a toll...10 + 1 in capacity is fine / and I just shoot the full sized 1911 better than any other gun.
In the entry level of 1911's --- under $ 1,000 or so you just have to find a gun that has the features you want with the best trigger. Any 1911 can be rebuilt to suit you ...but adding features and doing a trigger job can easily add a few hundred bucks. There are some subtle things - if you're new to 1911's ...the new Colts have quit checkering the front strap on the grip and so has Springfield on some models...I don't know off hand what Sig is doing on their 9mm's. Some guns have "bob tailed frames", ambi safeties, a mag well or speed chute...all things to consider.
I wouldn't count on shooting a G19 better than a G26. A lot of people, including that guy in the mirror, report shooting the 26 better. Definitely try one out before spending money in that direction.
I like my G26, but Glocks definitely aren't for everyone. Moving in another direction might be the way to go if you don't feel good about the G26.
I like my G26, but Glocks definitely aren't for everyone. Moving in another direction might be the way to go if you don't feel good about the G26.
From what I've read so far, the Glock 43, a 9mm firearm, is the closest thing to Wendyj's .380, which apparently fits her the best. I can only assume the .380 Glock Wendyj has is a G42, as the other .380 Glocks on the market are typically unavailable in the USA.
I don't quite understand Post#4 (Wendyj's 2nd post) as I don't know what
I generally don't recommend a 1911 to anybody unless that person is dedicated to ensuring the 1911 operates reliably and will put any time & money into to it if it's not initially reliable.
From just shooting 1911, there are some differences to ensure.
-ensuring one's grip is depressing the grip safety.
-determining if one can use the thumb-on-top-of-the-thumb-safety shooting method.
-determining if the extra weight is acceptable.
Only Wendyj can determine if going from a G42 AND G26 to either a G19 or 1911 is for her. The best way is to buy one or both and totally immerse oneself in it for a month or more of shooting, as much as possible, perhaps 1,000 rounds to get that muscle memory and find out what, if anything, is not working for her or wearing on her hands.
I do like how the choices have been narrowed down to either a Glock or a 1911, however, as these are my two favorite platforms.
I'll be interested to hear the final outcome of this journey.
Among many others, I've got a G43, G26, G19, and a few 1911s (but not a SIG or Ruger 1911). All my 1911s are in .45ACP. I don't have a 9mm 1911.
Wendyj, for the next handgun, first decide on Glock or 1911. If 1911, then that opens up caliber, brand, size, and price range. Choosing the right 1911 is a subject in itself.
I don't quite understand Post#4 (Wendyj's 2nd post) as I don't know what
means.
I generally don't recommend a 1911 to anybody unless that person is dedicated to ensuring the 1911 operates reliably and will put any time & money into to it if it's not initially reliable.
From just shooting 1911, there are some differences to ensure.
-ensuring one's grip is depressing the grip safety.
-determining if one can use the thumb-on-top-of-the-thumb-safety shooting method.
-determining if the extra weight is acceptable.
Only Wendyj can determine if going from a G42 AND G26 to either a G19 or 1911 is for her. The best way is to buy one or both and totally immerse oneself in it for a month or more of shooting, as much as possible, perhaps 1,000 rounds to get that muscle memory and find out what, if anything, is not working for her or wearing on her hands.
I do like how the choices have been narrowed down to either a Glock or a 1911, however, as these are my two favorite platforms.
I'll be interested to hear the final outcome of this journey.
Among many others, I've got a G43, G26, G19, and a few 1911s (but not a SIG or Ruger 1911). All my 1911s are in .45ACP. I don't have a 9mm 1911.
Wendyj, for the next handgun, first decide on Glock or 1911. If 1911, then that opens up caliber, brand, size, and price range. Choosing the right 1911 is a subject in itself.
Tactical Jackalope
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Whatever you choose, just make sure you know how to work it under stress. That said, I do not feel a 1911 is a good recommendation for a novice shooter who's used to no external safety.
I'd say the 26 is fine, but since you said concealed carry isn't the purpose and that the purpose is a home / truck gun. Full sized weapons are the way to go. Glock 19 or 17. SIG P320. Heckler and Koch VP9. (You said you like the same trigger pull, I'm a DA / SA lover so I'm sticking to what you asked. Let me know if you want me to branch out.)
I'd say the 26 is fine, but since you said concealed carry isn't the purpose and that the purpose is a home / truck gun. Full sized weapons are the way to go. Glock 19 or 17. SIG P320. Heckler and Koch VP9. (You said you like the same trigger pull, I'm a DA / SA lover so I'm sticking to what you asked. Let me know if you want me to branch out.)
One of my sons has an M&P 9mm, another a Glock G36, and the old man (me) has a Springfield Pro. It's what you like, shoot well, feel good with and will practice with. Lessons are a great idea. It's amazing how much better you can learn to shoot in an hour from someone who knows what they're doing and can teach.
Since you are thinking about the g19 i saw this comparison article that might help you out between the g19 and g26