Glock 30 vs. USP .45 Compact for concealed carry

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Your opinions, guys? They're both basically similar, afaik... Polymer framed "compact" .45s with a decent clip capacity, and also rather expensive. I know the Glock 30 is about $200 less than a USP Compact, so that is one thing going in its favor.

As far as in-waistband comfort and constant carry use, which is better / more comfortable?
 
I carry the HK 45 Compact - I don't care for glocks, they seem cheap when compared to the HK. I like the exposed hammer on the HK, along with the decocking lever and safety. To me, the HK is a better designed gun. I don't own a glock and never will.
 
The HK is bigger, more expensive, more complicated and more things can break/go wrong with it.

The Glock is cheaper, more reliable, sturdier and more fool-proof.

I carry a 1911. :D

Hey.. if it is easy, it's not worth doing.

(FWIW: I do own and carry a G30 when the situation dictates.)
 
Yeah!! Well I carry the G36. You can carry a G36 in your pocket or on your ankle. I know, I did it all last weekend. Oh yeah, It is just about the most comfortable pistol ever to carry IWB. :) (I do that too.) For an all around versitile carry pistol that is chambered in a major caliber, the G36 is the all around winner!!

HK: furgetaboutit!!!!! :barf:
 
They are both great guns and will serve you well.

As to which one is more comfortable, you just have to strap one on and test it out. Every person is shaped differenty, so what may be comfortable to one could be extremely uncomfortable to another.

The HK will have a higher resale value in case you decide you don't want the weapon anymore.

Good Shooting
RED
 
I am wearing a .45C right now. IMHO a 30 & 36 are to big for ankle carry. I do carry a 27 on the ankle.


That aside, shoot them both, figure out which you like. Understand that the vast majority of persons that respond to a Chevy vs. Ford post - don't know what they are talking about. They don't own both, they have not fired both 1,000 or more times under most all conditions, they don't legally carry, they don't compete, and they don't reload. Most got there info from a friend "who really knows guns" or "it is what all the cops have".


Find a range that will allow you to rent these (and several others). Figure out what fits your hand best and what you shoot best. Do your best to weed through the "mine is the best cuz it is what I have" posts and make an informed decision.



There are 3 - 5 very good non 1911 manufacturers out there. You are looking at 2 of them.

Your dime, your life, your choice. Don't believe the hype.


ps - It is a "mag" not a clip

pss - Weapons on your person are not comfortable - they are comforting. That said, spend the money on one good holster. A good holster and a sturdy belt will make all the difference in the world. I carry my .45C IWB in a Milt Sparks Versa Max II - cost over $100 and I had to wait 12 weeks to get it. Is it worth it? Without question. Same goes with shoulder and ankle rigs - you get what you pay for.
 
At least with the HK, if you run out of ammo, you can just beat someone with the empty gun. I wouldn't try that with a Glock.

I carry a 1911 in summer and a USP in winter....
 
You will need to buy bigger pants, or lose weight, to carry a G30 IWB, thanks to its brick-like ergonomics.

Its actually a very good gun. Very accurate. Just not the right thickness for comfortable concealed carry for me.
 
I hated Glocks but then shot my instructors G30 following a CCW class. I ended up buying a G26 for my wife's CCW & a short time later purchased a G30 for myself.

I carry the G30 almost daily with a Comp-Tac Shirt Tucker and it is very comfortable. It is a thick gun, but conceals well for me. I am 6'1" & 195 lbs. When the weather is colder i carry in a shoulder rig that i picked up at a gun show.

For a carry gun, the Glock is hard to beat. It's fast and easy to maintain, durable, and more accurate than I am able to shoot it. It is also a gun that you don't have to worry about banging up. You really can't make it any more ugly. :rolleyes: I guess my point is that it is a gun that fills it's role as a CCW very well.

I hope this is of some help.

Blombo
 
Why not a G36?

The single-stack G36 is flatter than even the G26 or G27 and can be carried right in the pocket. Weight-wise, I believe it weighs in at approximately 19 oz, unloaded. If you're sold on the .45 for defensive carry purposes, I wouldn't go any farther. Only drawback? Reduced capacity.
 
ccw .45

I have nothing bad to say about either gun.
Both will serve you well.
I tend to lean to guns with mechanical safeties.
I do own a H&K .45 compact SS and will never willingly part with it.
 
pss - Weapons on your person are not comfortable - they are comforting.
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All my carry guns have to meet both criteria, comfortable and comforting. I won't carry a weapon that isn't comfortable for me to carry daily. A good belt and holster combination will make a weapon more comfortable to wear.

That's why so many of us carry Mk9's, P32's and smaller weapons. They aren't as comforting as a full size 1911 or USP, but they are comfortable, allowing us the option of at least being armed in situations where we otherwise would not have a weapon.



Good SHooting
RED
 
PSSSSS - Nothing like a little unprovoked condescension to make for an unpleasant thread... :(

Anyway... The USP is a tad (.10") longer and taller (.25") than the 30, but is the same width as the 36... so if width is the issue for you to be comfortable, I'd say HK, cause you get 8 rounds as opposed to 6 in the same 1.14" wide frame. Sure the HK is heavier, but as mentioned before, you can fix that with a good belt and holster.
 
Mo -

I mention no names and point no fingers... As I was reading posts, some of them reminded me of the way that some gunshop counter-commando's talk to customers just trying to get a little info...

"Low recoil round Ma'am? There's no such thing as a LOW recoil round. There's a lowER recoil round, but all rounds are gonna recoil."

Could I have read it wrong? SURE! Do I apologize if I did? ABSOLUTELY!

TFL is just such a pleasant place to post... that's why I have over 1000 posts here, and less than 100 on any other board...

Be excellent to each other.... and party on dudes! :D
 
Onslaught, you have no need to apologize to me as I did not one up anyone (never used "I" vs anyone else) and never made a derogatory remark about another manufacturer. Maybe you are thinking of another poster.


You do bring up a great point though, be excellent to one another. Part of that to me means: unless one truely KNOWS the answer and has something beyond a mere opinion do not give advice to another as to how to spend their hard earned $$$.

Most of us don't have the $$, time or interest in acquiring something based on someone's opinion when that someone is less than qualified to make a reccomendation. That to me is called screwing over your brother.

I hope everyone takes this to heart. These Brand X vs Brand Y or 9MM vs .45 (substitute caliber) are so full of BS it isn't funny. What it can easily lead to (if one is not willing to verify all the crap) is a waste of money.


Good luck to all.
 
What manual of arms do you prefer and what is your budget?

The answers to that will point to your weapon...
 
I have a Glock 17, and I carried it for a while until I realized a very crucial fact: I was scared of it. That's right, logic was out the window, and emotion ruled my world. I would NOT carry it w/ a loaded chamber, because I felt it would be more prone to a Negligent Discharge. After realizing that it was REDICULOUS to carry a pistol without a round chambered, I switched to a pistol that had a different manual of arms (HK P7, 1911, or DA/SA.)

SO- if this isn't a big deal to you, carry a Glock, it's cheaper, simpler, and a heck of a gun. BUT, if it would prevent you from being prepared to defend yourself when you needed it, get the HK (or some other pistol you WOULD be comfortable with.)

A friend of mine went through the same issue with his 1911. He now carries a USP45C.

Comparing the two on anything other than personal preference is an exercise in futility, they're both top-notch guns.
 
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