Glock 17 for IPSC

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Hellequin

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Hi:

I am about to buy a brand new glock 17 to use it on IPSC competition.

I will like to know from experienced shooters which accesories and improvements should I get to make it the ultimate IPSC Glock gun. (sights, barrels, etc)

Price is not an issue. I will like to know about the best.

Thanks in advance for all the inputs. :)
 
I'm not an IPSC shooter, but several of my friends are.

As they explain it, shooting 9mm puts them in a minor class, not where the action is in IPSC.

If you're serious about shooting a 9mm in IPSC, you should ignore the 17 and go with the 34. Its asically the same gun, with a longer barrel and all of the enhancements you might want to add already installed.

All you've got to do, then, is see if you like the trigger, or get it tweaked.

I don't particularly like Glocks. (I had a nice 17, but found other guns that were better for me.) But, that said, the Glock 34 is very tempting.
 
i used to say that glock was the only gun you could buy and take it straight to a match and it would not let you down....i use a 17 and a 17L--Both have factory sights....the 17 i use mostly at three gun stuff only has a magazine extension of ten rounds--i didn't put the lighter trigger gizmo in that gun......

the 17 L is also pretty much stock although i did get a seattle slug to fill the hole in the back and give the gun a little more weight.....just remembered--i also held the mag well area over a hot burner on the stove and experimented with forming the well out bigger--it's slow but works-and don't get too close to the burner.....Dick
 
Its a disadvantage to use a "minor" caliber (ie 9mm) in IPSC (unless you can hit the bullseye--the only time 9mm is not penalized). Perhpas you should go with a .40 or .45 instead?
 
Hellequin

Please listen. A Glock 17 has NO handycap in IPSC. Provided you shoot in Production Division. This division is new just a few years ago and is prefect for the G17. The Division requires no external modifications and only minor polishing to internal parts are allowed. The trigger pull must be at least 5 pounds on the first pull. No extended safety, slidestop, magwells, etc. It simply takes the $$$ out of the race to win. Stops the game from being a money wins racket. The match I shot sunday had stock g17 in the hands of 3/4 of the shooters in production division. Some 90% of the shooters in production division used G17's the shoot before that I was at and that was in a different province just to show it is not a local favorite. Oh and yes buy the 17 9mm as all guns/calibers are scored as minor 125 in production class and 10rd mags is the rule.

Moe
 
Unless you break a 165,000 power factor, any gun puts you in Minor. So you need to crank a 147 gr 9mm bullet at 1,122 fps to break out of minor. Go with the G22 or G35 for major in a Glock. Of course, if you make all A hits, it won't matter...
 
In the division Moe is talking about there isn't any power factor, all calibers are scored using the same "minor" scoring. This is also the reason that 9mm rules this division, there is no advantage to shooting heavier recoiling calibers. This division is IPSC's response to IDPA and the rules are almost exactly the same.
 
TFL member kn4qb...

...cleans up the Production class at the local range on a regular basis with a dead-nuts-stock first-gen G17. :cool:
 
Well you do have to make at least 125 power factor. I am not sure how popular it is in your country or the U.S. but it is catching on at the regional level here in Canada. However the first year it was introduced here (last year) there were only 3 entrys at the nationals and none this year. Seams at the nationals only Standard and Open divisions are popular and you only see Revolver and Production divisions at the provincial champinship and lower level matches. Perhaps we will have a good show of them at the Nationals this year in Halifax N.S. I will miss it however Dammit as I will be in Bosnia. I have not seen much of a Modified division following.

Moe
DVC
 
True, you have to make the 125 power factor, but there is no advantage to using a gun that would make "major" because everything is scored "minor" to keep scoring simple.
 
The G17 would be great in production...

Mods I would make...

3.5 pound connector

Ext mag release that is on the G34/G35

Heinie slantpro and .100 or .090 front sight serrated

skateboard tape the grip

plug the hole in the bottom of the frame

Get a bladetech or Kytac straight drop holster, four mag pouches and 6 or so mags..

go shooting...


http://www.custom-glock.com/index2.html
http://www.topglock.com/catalog/competition.htm
http://www.seattleslug.2alpha.com/

are three sites for racing with the glock..
 
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I use a Glock 17 in Producton (and a Glock 22 in Standard), and there's nothing you really NEED to do to them. I've got adjustable sights on both of them, and 3.5 pound connectors (which really doesn't take the trigger down to 3.5 pounds; on my 17, the trigger weighs in at 5.5 pounds, because it has to be at least 5 pounds for Production. On my 22 with a 3.5# connector AND a Cominolli trigger, it comes in at 3.5 pounds). Take all of the money you would have been willing to spend on left-handed widgets for your pistol, and put it into practice ammo instead, and you'll come out a better shooter.
 
DON'T KNOW ABOUT RULES, BUT A GLOCK M17 IS THE RIGHT GLOCK CHOICE

I recommend the MMC adjustable rear sight with either a Heinie or Millett front blade.

You may want to monkey with the STEEL lightweight striker, and MAYBE a 3.5lb connector.
 
Hey, WESHOOT2, ol' buddy!...weren't you one of those who were knockin' my Glock a coupla days ago? ;)

Hellequin: I haven't taken my G17 to the IPSC yet (I'm still moving up the ranks with my 1911). The good thing about my Glock is that I can still find a good pre-ban mag for it; although this doesn't count for much in the course of mandatory reloads.

I, too, agree that power factor is one consideration you should bear in mind.

Perhaps a G21 instead???
 
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Look at the rules of the class and game (IPSC or IDPA) you want to play, then follow them. Personally I've been having fun with my G17 for years. The only mod is a Glock 3.5# trigger group. Oh and sometimes I have to use 10 round mags.

Skip the bells and thing-a-ma-bobs. Spend the money on pratice ammo, range/match fees and maybe a class.

You're competitiveness will not be equipment limited with a stock Glock (in the right divisions).
 
'OBJECTIVE OPINION' vs 'DISSIN' N PISSIN'

I respect Glock pistols, but I don't 'care' for them.
The MOST RELIABLE Glock is still the original.
Not for me, but for many........
 
There is nothing wrong with shooting 9mm in IPSC. And the Glock 17 would certainly be a good choice. I recently re-joined the IPSC ranks shooting production class with a Ruger P89. I am using the same gun for IDPA. I have a Glock 17 in the safe and have considered taking it and giving it a tryout although obviously it isn't my first choice. As others have said, I would spend a lot more time and money practicing and forget about gadgets. Learn the game and if you are really enjoying yourself, that would be the time to think about a race gun.
 
Hello. Hellequin is going to buy a G17. It is a 9mm and as such only has any real chance in production division. So all you guys suggesting the upgrades are screwing him when he gets disqualified at a big match that he spent time and money to attend.

Ok lets say I'm a range officer at a match and we do a random inspection of your equipment.

What do we find.

eerw: DQ 3.5# trigger, extended mag release, aftermarket sights, skateboard tape on grip, changed grip size.

SDC: DQ 3.5# trigger(G17) Come on man your a fellow Canadian you should know better. I hope you shoot that G22 in standard because that G17 in production will get you sent home early from Halifax this August.

Weshoot2: DQ 3.5# trigger aftermarket sights, lightweight striker

Rickmeister: DQ hi-cap mags(yes production is a 10 rd limit even in the U.S.A.)

Stick: DQ 3.5# trigger

Now I'm not trying to be an ass I just want to see everyone play fair and not waste money traveling long distance to get DQ ie. SDC Pet to Halifax for the nationals.

Please note the folowing production rules. They seem straight forward to me. 125 power factor floor minor power only(a G22 is still minor power), first shot must be at least 5# trigger pull, "External modifcations or replacement using non-factory componentsnot allowed."(exact replacement parts only allowed), "Internal replacements using non-factory components specifically not allowed."(again only exact parts allowed),

Here is the ONLY THING you can do to the pistol. "internal modifactions such as minor polishing or detailing of factory components are allowed."(exact parts of course)

Moe
NFA
DVC
 
ASKED FOR "ULTIMATE"

Follow the rules of whatever class you prefer. The only class I don't participate in is Production.

Why would I? LOL
 
Hallequin- depends on which division you want to compete. I have a Glock 19 and I compete in production division. Same with my buddy who have about a dozen trophies. He moved to standard div now using his new Glock 35.


vega
 
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