Ghost 3.5lb trigger connector

If I could get a 1 lb trigger that wouldn't go off when it was dropped or jarred, I would have a 1lb trigger. Wouldn't you? Again if your not confident that YOU aren't going to make the gun go off by having your finger somewhere it shouldn't be, then you shouldn't have a gun.

Yes, every gun has SOME slack but they don't gradually stack weight until they hit what you call the "wall" (which considering it's like hitting my head against one to shoot a glock, you called it right). That's quite distracting and makes for a HORRIBLE trigger pull. I don't consider the DA pull on a revolver "slack" because it doesn't stack..........it's the same weight until the gun goes off. A DA revolver doesn't start at 2 pounds and break at 12........... When you cock a DA revolver and go to squeeze off the shot, there's no slack there, there may be a tiny bit of creep, but by the time you feel that, the shot is off. If the cylinder lock didn't make any noise when it engaged in DA mode, you wouldn't know it's getting close. Triggers that stack weight through the pull are not my cup of tea. Maybe you like them, me, not so much.

They are quite functional, and there are folks that shoot them well, and I CAN shoot them well, but it takes more concentration than I'm willing to give, especially when there are better options out there.

If you found a Glock with a better factory trigger than an XD service with a factory trigger, Glock must have screwed one up somehow, because it seems to me they have to make their triggers that bad on purpose.
 
If I could get a 1 lb trigger that wouldn't go off when it was dropped or jarred, I would have a 1lb trigger. Wouldn't you? Again if your not confident that YOU aren't going to make the gun go off by having your finger somewhere it shouldn't be, then you shouldn't have a gun.
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Not really no. I don't think any trigger that light is required for decent pistol shooting, especially in a self defense situation, nor do I find getting good hits with a 5 lb. trigger a problem. I have many hours of courses and I know to keep my finger off the trigger. That said self defense shootings are dynamic situations. People move, people get knocked over. I wouldn't want a hair trigger in that situation.

Yes, every gun has SOME slack but they don't gradually stack weight until they hit what you call the "wall" (which considering it's like hitting my head against one to shoot a glock, you called it right).
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Again I'd say this depends on the firing mechanism and the pistol. I have some DA/SA pistols that stack before the wall, often as a result of stiff firing pin block springs.

That's quite distracting and makes for a HORRIBLE trigger pull.
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What's a horrible trigger to one might not be to another. I and many others don't find the triggers on striker fired pistols (or even Glocks in particular) terrible, though there are many that agree with you. I won't argue they're works of arts by any stretch.

.it's the same weight until the gun goes off. A DA revolver doesn't start at 2 pounds and break at 12........... When you cock a DA revolver and go to squeeze off the shot, there's no slack there, there may be a tiny bit of creep, but by the time you feel that, the shot is off.
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You're comparing 1911s and cocked revolvers to striker fired pistols. By the way striker fired pistols function they won't have triggers on that level. But any DA/SA pistol in SA will have noticeable slack. A DA pistol or revolver also has noticeable takeup, which while I wouldn't call it slack it will still mean noticeable trigger travel and the heavier resistance can affect sight picture.

They are quite functional, and there are folks that shoot them well, and I CAN shoot them well, but it takes more concentration than I'm willing to give, especially when there are better options out there.
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Again I think better is subjective because better in what way? If you like and prefer other designs rock on, I just avoid making generalizations. Just because you prefer other mechanisms doesn't mean striker fired pistols don't allow the development of marksmanship. I and others here consider them relatively easier to learn to shoot well than some other designs.

If you found a Glock with a better factory trigger than an XD service with a factory trigger, Glock must have screwed one up somehow, because it seems to me they have to make their triggers that bad on purpose.
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I've shot a number of samples of each model and never found your comments to ring true for me. I actually owned them all at one point to do a side by side for my own benefit. To each his own though. If you don't like a defined wall and prefer a rolling break I can see your point, but I'm the opposite.
 
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I actually owned them all at one point to do a side by side for my own benefit. To each his own though. If you don't like a defined wall and prefer a rolling break I can see your point, but I'm the opposite.
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On this we can agree

What's a horrible trigger to one might not be to another. I and many others don't find the triggers on striker fired pistols terrible. I won't argue they're works of arts though.
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Again, no argument here

Also, just because you prefer other mechanisms doesn't mean striker fired pistols don't allow the development of marksmanship.
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I never said one couldn't develop marksmanship skills with one. I am very accurate with almost any handgun I pick up. I said it takes more concentration than I'm willing to give. After 15 years of being a firearms instructor for police recruits, this stacking trigger is the LEADING cause of recoil anticipation and subsequent low shots. Again, they're horrible, and not only to me, but the majority of shooters I have trained.

while I wouldn't call it slack it will still mean noticeable trigger travel
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The length of travel isn't the issue, it's the exponential stacking of weight, and then the "wall"

I have taken dozens of hours of courses
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I have taken hundreds and taught hundreds more through my career. I have shot and owned virtually every make of reputable SD/Service handgun made, including Glock. I still own 2, because if I'm going to teach it, I should be able to do it.

I just avoid making generalizations
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I'm comfy with generalizations. Striker fired pistols have generally crappy triggers that are more difficult to master than other designs.

No offense intended, and none taken. Merry Christmas!
 
The length of travel isn't the issue, it's the exponential stacking of weight, and then the "wall"
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But it's not even close to exponential. I brought up length of travel because you're using both slack and stack which have different meanings and slack is certainly related to trigger travel.

I have taken hundreds and taught hundreds more through my career. I have shot and owned virtually every make of reputable SD/Service handgun made, including Glock. I still own 2, because if I'm going to teach it, I should be able to do it.
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Rock on. I didn't bring up my experience to try to compete with you or play down your own experience. My point was that I understand the importance of finger off the trigger from that training, but I still don't think a hair trigger is necessarily a good idea for the reasons I mentioned.

I'm comfy with generalizations. Striker fired pistols have generally crappy triggers that are more difficult to master than other designs.
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I and many of the instructors today would disagree, but hey opinions are what they are.

No offense intended, and none taken. Merry Christmas!
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I didn't take any offense. Happy Hanukkah! :cool:
 
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