Getting a 9mm soon....

Guys, I can only tell you my personal experience. The burn rate chart bears this out. The faster the powder the more recoil you can get out of a gun. The weight of the gun is also something to be taken into consideration as well, plus the grains of powder plus the bullet type and weight. But overall, the faster the powder, the higher the likelihood of a strong recoil.

I started with Titegroup and my wife did not like the recoil, neither did I. She has a CZ 75 P01. At the time I had a CZ 85, now a Canik Stingray. I have 2 lbs left and love working with it in my Rossi .357 lever rifle. I also use it in a .357 magnum pistol. Even in the magnum, Titegroup has a good bounce. I shifted to a lesser burn rate powder (Silhoutte) and our recoil dampened. I shifted down into Longshot and we both found that our accuracy increased and the recoil was even less.

I am not an expert, just a consumer with experience. The proof in the test will be what Nathans' wife has to say when she tests rounds with each powder. I would suggest, to be fair, that you load mid-point for each powder, same bullet weight.

Send me a PM and let me know how things turn out.

Good luck. Be safe.
 
Without velocity data to go along with the powder used the "lower recoil from slower powders" statement is suspect.

I would imagine the lower recoil was a result of lower velocities.
 
Nathan you can work with what you have. Take the 124s and start your Titegroup and #5 at slightly below the starting loads you will see in your manuals. Load maybe ten at a time and also load progressively lighter by a tenth of a grain or two,ten at a time,until you get down to where the load won't run the gun.Then you know to load a bit heavier than the failing load. Once you have done that with both powders then just load several of each in order in the same magazine and shoot for feel. Do that with all the powders you care to try and let the best load for what you want to do show itself.
 
faster burning powders in general give you more recoil sensation?

No they don't.

In general, faster propellants yield less recoil because they are no longer "thrusting" as hard as a slower propellant when the bullet leaves the barrel.
 
3.0 grains of 700x hi-score under a 125 grain slug is VERY tame in 3.6 barrel Baby Desert Eagle. My 11 year old girl can shoot it very well now, and she has been shooting it for a little over a year now. It cycles the action well also. I like 700x for 9mm because a 14 ounce can is way cheaper than a pound of other powders, you can reload at least 2k rounds of 9mm with it, and it actually is a pretty accurate powder. It's a fast powder, which likely contributes to it being a little less snappy.

It is dirty though. Between shooting lead and getting lube gum buildup after a few hundred rounds this stuff adds a lot of soot to it as well. It's dirty, but at least it's easy to clean.
 
Below is a snap-shot of the four powders the OP has. I used Lee's 2nd Edition, 115 grain lead-cast bullet, because it was the only table that contained all 4 powders.

I suggested a mid-point load thus the "Average." My guess in terms of comfort was Longshot and aa5 strictly based on the burn rate. Sharkbite has a point in his conclusion, was surprised by SR4756 when I did the math.

As I stated previously, I'm speaking from experience, not a ballistics expert by any means. I still maintain that you're going to get a higher recoil rate from Titegroup as compared to the others in the list. Run your tests and let us know. Besides, if your wife prefers SR4756, I might have to consider it for future use....

Velocity:
Powder Min Max Average Burn Rate
SR4756 1027 1145 1086 39
longshot 1032 1166 1099 103
aa5 1043 1179 1111 41
titegroup 1075 1151 1113 14
 
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I am not going to comment on how I feel about the science or mechanics behind low vs. fast power and recoil. I honestly cannot tell a difference between two powders (generally using hp38, Titegroup, HS6, CFE pistol) in terms of recoil so long as they are loaded to similar velocities with a same bullet. I will say that the abrupt combustion of the super fast powders seem to make a bit of a higher pitched bang and could possibly be perceived as more recoil, but I cannot say for sure. but I now when loading a full power 357 mag with TG vs H110, you get a very loud BANG with TG and a thundering BOOM with the H110, but I can't say my wrists can tell a difference between a 1500fps bullet loaded with any type of powder. they all hurt
 
Far better ammo with no "issues." Use factory until you find the load that works and they like. My 9mm Glock girls gun is a bit particular, I just run factory. My Browning eats anything. I think you need 500 factory just to be sure blaming the ammo is correct.

END Early. Before they say I'm sick of this $hit. No more than an hour if you want to go again in the same year.

Edit: you've been here since 2001 so 1. You probably know all that. 2. You have other guns and 3. Seriously, nearly 15 years to get a 9mm? You need a better Santa.
 
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Nathan you can work with what you have. Take the 124s and start your Titegroup and #5 at slightly below the starting loads you will see in your manuals. Load maybe ten at a time and also load progressively lighter by a tenth of a grain or two,ten at a time,until you get down to where the load won't run the gun.Then you know to load a bit heavier than the failing load. Once you have done that with both powders then just load several of each in order in the same magazine and shoot for feel. Do that with all the powders you care to try and let the best load for what you want to do show itself.

Better keep a squib rod handy. At some point you can't push the bullet out of the barrel.
 
If you have done this before you know that the gun will fail to function properly(the slide won't go all the way back) long before you stick a bullet in the barrel.
 
3. Seriously, nearly 15 years to get a 9mm? You need a better Santa

You are soooo right. I don't even have a FFP scope or a 5" semi-custom 1911 either! I do have a couple of AR's and other goodies!
 
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