Gang defensive tactics

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Workinwifdakids,

No worries. I thought you were joking. But after reading that, I could see how people could actually interpret my post that way. Some folks have their own agendas on those issues; they write to my local paper after every report of a crime.

I just wanted to make sure I didn't feed that particular machine.

Cheers,

M

PS I agree with your comments on the PC crowd and some of the ridiculous fixes they think they have come up with.
 
I agree but.......

All the suggestions here are very good common sense answers and should be followed. The thing I have noticed with some threads though is an idea that there is an answer to ALL the scenarios being put forward and sometimes there just isn't. If your set upon by 20 " gang bangers " in a dead end street or something well your pretty much ****ed.

Not suggesting that you would just quit the fight but we all are human and guess what, life is one big risk. You win some and you lose some. You just do your best till your time is up.
 
I used to be in a dangerous business

that put me in jeopardy of being mugged and it happened quite often.
9.9 times I saw it coming but ignored the red flags.

For some reason when I'm walking late at night (I work nights)
and I have my hand on my 642, no one bothers me.

There is no need for anyone to crowd me because at 0330
no one is on the street, anyone crowding me is probably up to no good and I give them wide berth, if they pursue, that means trouble.

One time a guy got real close with a small concealed knife I verbally deescalated before I knew he even had it in my hand .

He was close enough to stab me before I could have shot him from concealment.

I realize I need a lot more real combat skills then just hitting my target
 
gang attack?

1.Avoid danger areas if possible.
2.Be aware of everythibng around you.
3.Be trained to act and choose the right tactic.
 
Since so many people already mentioned the "Try not to be an unsuspecting victim", then I will address what I would do if I was already in such a situation.

The most important thing is to protect your head and face to minimize the chances of serious injury. It will be very difficult to draw and get a shot off it you are already on the ground getting the snot kicked out of you. There is even a very good chance you will lose your gun and possible have it used against you. Besides, the chances of getting off an aimed shot is slim to none and you might hit bystanders.

I would look for an opportunity to go for a shot to the knees or groin. Make a hard decisive strike since you want to incapacitate any attacker as quickly as possible. If I had a chance, I would go for my knife and slash at anyone close enough. If you get them to back off, then go for your gun.
 
A "complete" history lesson for one "Bob"

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Avoid that neighborhood. Or burn it out!

O thats special

Ain't it tho. It's worked in other places.

Bloody Bill Anderson was a genteel southern boy who saw his father executed in cold blood for refusing to support the North. Later, because they wouldn't change sides to the Yanks in the War Between the States, Anderson's mother and sisters were rounded up and hauled to Lawrence, Kansas where they were imprisoned in a make-believe prison. Those liberal bastards gutted the building of all but it's exterior shell so it would hold more Southern sympathizer prisoners. When the building collapsed, one of Anderson's sisters was killed and the other seriously maimed. Armed with this knowledge of the atrocities done to his family, Bloody Bill rode with W.C. Quantrill and his Raiders in retaliation of the Jayhawkers and the Yanks. They burned Lawrence, Kansas to the ground, but unfortunately, like cockroaches, Lawrence rose from the ashes to become a bastion of liberalism again.

I stand by my original statement: Burn em out. The crime-ridden hell-holes of our cities need to be burned down. Clean out the filth and rebuild. Put the gang-bangers, dope dealers, and hoodlums on notice "were gonna stop your crap or you're gonna burn". It's time to clean up America. Take it back from crime.

It's time for the South to rise again!
 
Paraphrasing much of what's already been said, predators look for easy prey.

Don't give off the appearance or vibe that you're easy or prey. Be aware of your surroundings at all times, and always expect the unexpected.
 
Bloody Bill Anderson was a genteel southern boy who saw his father executed in cold blood for refusing to support the North.

Bloody Bill anderson was an insane homicidal son of a horse thief who greatest exploits in battle were the murder of innocent townsfolk and unarmed prisoners.

Nice handle. Whats next on this Board, Richard Speck?

Oh and you related to Quantrill here? A bunch of kiddies goofing around? Nice profile by the way:barf:

Burn em out. The crime-ridden hell-holes of our cities need to be burned down. Clean out the filth and rebuild. Put the gang-bangers, dope dealers, and hoodlums on notice "were gonna stop your crap or you're gonna burn". It's time to clean up America. Take it back from crime.

It's time for the South to rise again!

Attention lurkers...this Board is not like this, the membership here are not all like this I can assure you :barf: This guy has got to be a plant or a troll

WildmodtimeAlaska TM
 
Wildalaskaneedsahistorylesson. Maybe Bloody Bill went over the top but you have to consider the times and what was done to his family. You cannot judge people from those days by modern standards.

Oh and you related to Quantrill here? A bunch of kiddies goofing around

No, he's not related to Quantrill and he's not a kid. All three of us came here from another forum. Quantrill had been lambasted here and so has Bloody Bill. I guess it's my turn now. Friendly lot you all are.
 
Wildalaskaneedsahistorylesson

Wild does just fine with history. An insane murderer is still a murderer despite the context of his life.

No, he's not related to Quantrill and he's not a kid. All three of us came here from another forum.

O golly, wonder which one LOL

WildthreecheersforgeneralshermanAlaska TM
 
Wildalaskaneedsahistorylesson

A bunch of kiddies goofing around?

Not hardly. I'm probably older than you or at least your age. I had 16 years experience in Engineering and Construction before I began my 16 year career in Vocational Technical Education. I have a Masters Degree in Engineering Trades Education. Kiddie? Far, far from it.

Nice handle. Nice profile by the way.
I chose the moniker because Bill Anderson doggedly stood up for right and retaliated for the wrongs done to his family. He was of Scottish ancestory who's motto was "nemo me impune lacessit" (no one provokes me without impunity). While Anderson was alive he was simply known as "Bill Anderson". Sensationalizing historians added the "Bloody" part, later, after Anderson was dead.

Bloody Bill anderson was an insane homicidal son of a horse thief who greatest exploits in battle were the murder of innocent townsfolk and unarmed prisoners.

It would be a far stretch here to say you are partially correct, but I'll give you this much credit, your sorta-kinda close.

Anderson's father was a hatmaker by trade. He moved his family to Kansas because it was a free state. He wanted to escape the slave/no-slave battle. Because he refused to choose sides, the Unionists ACCUSED Anderson's father of stealing a horse in an attempt to force him to declare support for the North. When he refused, he was killed in cold blood in front of his family. Naturally, Bill Anderson sympathized with the Confederacy after that. The Unionists were a determined lot, (not unlike today's liberal democrats). In an attempt to force Bill Anderson to change to the Union side, the Unionists rounded up the women and children of Southern sympathizers, took em to Lawrence where the rest of the story has already been noted. When you back a dog into a corner, he is going to come out snarling and biting. I bet you would do the same. The Union issued official orders to execute any Confederate guerrilla on the spot. Bill Anderson simply responded in kind.

At the end of August, 1863, the Union commander, General Ewing, issued orders to expell all citizens from both sides of the Missouri/Kansas border, confiscate ALL property and turn it over to the Federals. Waging war against civilians only enboldened the guerrilla bands, including Bill Anderson, to defend what was rightfully theirs. From that time on, there was no return to "civilized" warfare for Bill Anderson. Yes, the cold-blooded killing of his father, the unnecessary death of his sister, and the maiming of another sister, drove Anderson to an "insane lust for revenge" against the Unionists. Anderson's guerrilla raid on Centralia, Missouri was NOT a revengeful action. It was a brilliant tactical move against an approaching Union army from information gathered by Confederate sympathizers.

This guy has got to be a plant or a troll

Not at all. I am sick of the way Hollywierd and Yankee liberal left have distorted the true facts of our history. Our nation has been duped by unscrupulous historians. I'll take truth over fiction every time.
 
Good grief. From gang defense to the Civil War ... sheesh!

Closed, for egregious thread-jacking and other reasons which should be obvious to the discerning reader.

pax
 
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