(GA) Rape suspect killed, maybe by 'vigilante'

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When the State can't protect it's citizens . . . "Grant was arrested for rape in 1998. His criminal record also includes arrests for armed robbery, theft and felony obstruction for fighting with police, according to Atlanta police records. All those arrests came within a five-year period. But they were not enough to keep him off the street.

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Rape suspect killed, maybe by 'vigilante'
Joshua B. Good - Staff

Police say Julius Grant was shot dead less than two hours after raping a teenage girl Monday.

The 17-year-old girl was hospitalized after being raped about noon in an abandoned house on Wesley Avenue in the Edgewood neighborhood, said Atlanta police homicide Sgt. Keith Meadows.

At 1:52 p.m., Grant, 29, was shot four times in the parking lot of an apartment complex on Hutchinson Street, three blocks from the rape scene. The bullets pierced his lungs. He died at Grady Memorial Hospital.

It being Labor Day, some residents were outside at the time, barbecuing chicken. But when police arrived, everyone said they didn't see a thing, said Atlanta homicide Detective Steve Walden.

Walden made no arrests Monday. He said he believes someone who knew the girl killed Grant in an act of vigilantism. But he had no suspects.

An investigator took a Polaroid photo of Grant's bloody face and police showed it to the rape victim. She identified Grant as the rapist, Walden said. She knew Grant by name.

Grant was arrested for rape in 1998. His criminal record also includes arrests for armed robbery, theft and felony obstruction for fighting with police, according to Atlanta police records. All those arrests came within a five-year period. But they were not enough to keep him off the street. His record of convictions was not available Monday because courts were closed for the holiday.

"If he raped that little girl, he got what he deserved," Edgewood resident Latrice Turner, 25, said as she stood next to the parking lot where yellow crime scene tape marked the spot where Grant was shot.

A girl wearing a diaper tugged on the crime scene tape. Turner shook her head and watched her chicken cooking on an outdoor grill. She said she wasn't there at the time of the shooting.

Linda Jones stopped eating when she heard the news about Grant's death.

"It's a shame he got killed," Jones said. "But it's even sadder he raped somebody."

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HEY!! NO FAIR!!

(I suppose I need to refresh my screen more often. :rolleyes: )

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So a hatful of felonies isn't enough to put someone in jail anymore but then we're supposed to be shocked by vigilanties?

I'm always left wondering what these prosecutors and judges think when they release people like this back into society. Release them on bail (sometimes for years) after committing a string of violent crimes and (gasp!) they go right on perpetrating more crimes. I can't imagine this is a news item for the criminal justice system.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jack 99:
So a hatful of felonies isn't enough to put someone in jail anymore but then we're supposed to be shocked by vigilanties?[/quote]

The only thing I find shocking is that it doesn't occur more often. And I do believe we're going to see more and more of this. Inevitably, some innocent(s) will end up being targeted, then the gov't will use it as an excuse to impose even further draconian controls and the cycle will perpetuate itself... :(

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That area is what might be called a "rough neighborhood". I doubt the folks there think the justice system works very well, so they did it themselves!!???
 
I really hope they find the vigilante who did this . . . so they can guarantee that he or she reloaded and is ready for more.
 
Good for the person who got him, he obviously shouldn't have been loose to begin with, and I agree, there will be much much more of this in the future. Now days if it's a child molester expressing his life choice or some poor dear sweet armed robber or murderer they have to be let go as they have become poor victims because they grew up w/o enough mothering by the .gov and besides our prisons need to house dangerous criminals like pot dealers and firearms violaters.

We may as well get used to it because this will be the only avenue we have left to fight back and in some cases is right now. More power to them.
 
Given the lack of witnesses and the fact the man was a known violent felon, the person who shot him might have been better off claiming self defense. I am sure that by the time the cops got to the scene the corpse would be armed. :D
 
Some say the death penalty is not a deterrant.

It certainly rarifies recidivism.

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Yeah, I read stuff like this, and it gets me thinking.

I have a step-son who's in prison for his stupid crap from a few years ago.
He never raped, stabbed, shot, robbed, anybody.
He did however keep making the same stupid mistakes. The last time, he did steal a truck, and drove off with it. Like I said, STUPID thing to do. Looks like it's gonna be 2 years plus for him for that.

Yet a$$holes like this guy are seriously harming citizens, and he gets what, a key to the city?
Give me a break, this douchebag deserved what he got! I think more of this would serve the nation well.
Obviously nothing else in the form of Justice we're dealt seems even close to answering the problem.
Too damn bad he notched the post with another victim before he got his.

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All kidding aside, I'm appalled to see so many of you applauding and advocating what is in essence a lynching. The murdered man was entitled to a fair trial like the rest of us. If his victim had shot him, that would be one thing, but for a posse to go forth and kill someone they either suspect or don't like is pure and simple mobocracy.
 
Cypselus, the judicial system proved itself totally incompetent and unable to do its job. In this case, a posse/vigilante was the only recourse, since The System failed.
 
The departed had already been tried by a jury of his peers and found guilty of a previous rape.

It is a shame that the members of the parole board that cut him loose will not be tried as accessories to the latest rape.

Sam
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cypselus:
All kidding aside, I'm appalled to see so many of you applauding and advocating what is in essence a lynching. The murdered man was entitled to a fair trial like the rest of us. If his victim had shot him, that would be one thing, but for a posse to go forth and kill someone they either suspect or don't like is pure and simple mobocracy. [/quote]

Vigilante justice worked quite well in the last century, contrary to the propoganda you see nowadays. The justice system had already failed to keep this guy from harming people, and I DO applaud the friend or relative of this girl who exterminated the bug that did this. If someone attacked my wife or child, I would do the same thing if the cops hadn't caught the guy.
 
I think people are only stating that this vigilante was a necessity where the system had proven incompetent. I'm sure anyone here would agree they would have rather seen the system do it's damn job and not have had this 17 year old girl raped.

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When Law no longer serves Justice it becomes the weapon of the Unjust. That is my statement and by belief.
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