G.W. Bush and his DUI

GeekWithGun

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George Bush and his DUI - Fox News broke the story yesterday regarding G.W. Bush's run in with the law back in 1976. He was stopped in Maine (Near the Bush Family Compound) for driving too slow and was found to be intoxicated. He received a ticketed and a fine (which he paid) and lost his license to drive for a period of 1.5 years in the State of Maine. OoOo... Big freakin' deal. The 'W' has always been straight forward about his past drinking problems, and when asked why he had not disclosed this information before now, he stated in a press conference last night that he was trying to teach his twin daughters not to drink and drive and didn't want them to know that their daddy had done it. Perfectly understandable. I personally have never been stopped while driving under the influence, but that doesn't mean that I have never driven under the influence.
G.W. also said in his press conference last night that he thought it suspicious that the story came out 5 days before the election, but didn't point any fingers. This morning ABC reported that the story was leaked by a Democratic Delegate to the Gore Camp. Big surprise there, right? Folks, this is just one more desperate attempt by the DNC to give Al Bore a badly needed bump up in the polls before super tuesday. The big question that is being brought up is... Bush was 30 when this indiscretion happened and he should have known better. My response? Well, we had a 50 year old in the WhiteHouse who endulged in indescretions and HE should have known better, and yet the Dems said "That is a personal matter". Hey. Screw You! This happened to Bush before he was even in public office. Don't try to tell me that it should be a public issue! Yesterday I reported that the Dems has been sending rumors through the press that Ralph Nader was a Fag, so none of this should surprise you in the least. Last night during the Bush press conference, it was also reported that Ross Perot, who hates the Bush family (meaning Bush Senior), now supports Bush for President! "Here's a man I have never heard criticized once for improper conduct as governor, for improper taking of political funds, for payoffs, for impropriety in the governor's mansion or at any time," said Perot. Who might actually be affected by all of this? Not those who have already decided.

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I've got a gut feeling that this could end up hurting the Democrats a lot more than it could the Republicans.

At least I hope it will...

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Smith & Wesson is dead to me.

If you want a Smith & Wesson, buy USED!
 
I agree with you Mike. I think this could very well backfire on the Democrats. It is nothing compared to what Clinton and Gore have done.

Also he has shown a lot of maturity by giving up drinking and admitting that it was a mistake. That makes him 10 times better than the denyer(sp) in cheif and the teller of tall tales Al Gwhore.
 
I just hope this backfires on Gore and his attempt to smear GWB in the final days fo the campaign. I'd like to see one of two things come of this. Either this gives Nadar more votes as undecided voters show their mistrust of both parties, which ulimately helps GWB. Or, it sways conservative liberals to the right after seeing Gore's true colors. There's no way the Gore lackies "had no knowledge" of the conviction! That's basic dirt finding 101! They knew about the DUI since the very beginning and plotted to release it this way all along. It goes to show you how slick Gore really is! Kind of scarey actually, what else does he have up his sleeve?

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Matthew J. Giegler
US Army
Fort Irwin, California

"GUN CONTROL MEANS USING BOTH HANDS!"
 
This morning on Fox Cable News the reporter who broke the story admits that it was given to her by a lawyer who just happened to have had a 24 year old police record in his office and who just happens to have bene a Gore delegate at the Democratic national convention. I think we have just seen the democrats November surprise.
 
Pricks in the media are trying to claim now that Bush said he never was arrested for anythign in 1996. Sorry bastards may they all rot in hell.
 
By law, W. can no longer get a CCW permit in Massachusetts.

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~USP

"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
 
Some VERY interesting stuff is starting to come out about this.

It would appear that Bush's record of this offense was expunged after a certain period of time, which is not uncommon.

I've seen people on other boards say that it MAY be a crime in Maine to release anything have to do with incidents that have been expunged from a person's record.

It is also coming out that the person who released this was a delegate to the Democratic National Convention and runs a virulently anti-Bush website.

Here's an article done on him by the Portland, Maine, newspaper...

Tom Connolly


Also, be sure to check out this guy's anti-Bush website, www.wienerboy.org

Pretty disgusting re: some of the claims that he makes. I'd like to see Bush sue his butt.

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Smith & Wesson is dead to me.

If you want a Smith & Wesson, buy USED!

[This message has been edited by Mike Irwin (edited November 03, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by USP45:
By law, W. can no longer get a CCW permit in Massachusetts.
:mad:
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Do you mean maine? or did he do something dumb in Mass. too?
 
OK, I'll buy this much: it was a long time ago, he doesn't drink anymore, it doesn't affect his qualification to be POTUS. But don't tell me it wasn't a big deal at the time, and frankly, if you drive when you're drunk, don't expect attaboys from me. If you drive when you're drunk, you're doing the equivalent of sticking a rifle out the window and pulling the trigger. It is a crime and it ought to be.

I discussed this issue in all three of my morning classes, but I took a different tack than most of the news agencies. I gave the background on this issue and also on Gore's connections to Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church, and the kids discussed which was worse and how it affects their choices. I did my best not to coach or push one way or the other. As a rule they thought Gore's skeleton was smellier, because it was evidence of something horrible he might do in office (or in the attempt to get there.)
 
If the record was truly expunged, then there is only one other place that this information would have been found: FBI files. I wonder where a Democratic Delegate to the DNC would have come up with an FBI file? Police of course are privy to these files, but only when it concerns an arrestee. Since Bush hasn't been arrested since, I wonder where else an FBI file would have come from? I dunno, but I'm sure that Hillary Clinton, and the White House FBI "file-gate" has nothing at all to do with this!
 
Went to weinerboy website. I find it interesting that they have no links so that anybody can contact them and tell them what they think about the weinerboy site. They would probably be so inundated with Hate mail their server would collapse. But then, Democrats don't believe in anything but winning at any cost. Too bad that won't happen this year. Even my Democratic wife voted AGAINST GORE this year. Ok, she voted for Nader, but NOT GORE at least. Here in Colorado we can vote up to two weeks early. So we did. Run, George, run!
 
It was certainly wrong for GW to drive under the influence but he handled the facts coming to light well. Admitted he did what he did, said it was wrong and explained the details like a man. Now where is Al Gore's speech and Q&A on the budist temple incident?
 
In Massachusetts, by statue, you cannot be given a CCW permit if you have been convicted of a misdomeanor which is punishable by a prison sentance of 2 years, regardless of what your actual ajudicated punishment was, regardless of what state it occurs in.

In Massachusetts, 1st DUI is a misdomeanor punishable by up to a 2.5 year term (though this rarely, or never, happens.) Thus, you are then prohibited from receiving a CCW permit. I've read (from GOAL's publications) where people are loosing Class "A" permits (CCW) for DUI's that occured more than 15 years ago.

Perhaps we can use this to change the law in Massachusetts?



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"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by USP45:
By law, W. can no longer get a CCW permit in Massachusetts.

:mad:

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Can Ted Kennedy?
 
This was kept in the hip pocket by the Demo boys for a rainy day. Their rainy day is now here so they pulled it out to use.

This is a very telling indicator of their desperation.

Look for more to follow from these sleezebags.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by USP45:
By law, W. can no longer get a CCW permit in Massachusetts.
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Actually, that's not true. The penalty in Massachusetts for a first-time DUI is now up to 2 1/2 years in jail. This was enacted several years ago (1994?). There is a federal law which prohibits felons and those convicted of a misdemeanor punishable by more than 2 years in jail from possessing a firearm. So, if someone was convicted in MA of a DUI after this penalty was enacted, then they would be prohibited from getting an LTC (whether it was for concealed carry or not) and, in fact, federally prohibited from ever possessing a firearm again. However, those convicted in MA of a DUI BEFORE this penalty was enacted are not prohibited, since at that time the maximum penalty was for less than 2 years in prison.

I sincerely doubt that the maximum penalty for a first time DUI in Maine in 1976 was more than 2 years in jail, so the whole issue is moot.

M1911
 
What has bothered me recently is all the religious fantics at work are passing around their "Christian Coalition" voting guide. I don't care if G.W. has had a DUI, I do care if someones religious values are forced on me, expecially by a hypocrit. And don't tell me nobody wants to force thier values on anybody, it happens here on a daily basis. Anybody that does anything to offend the obnoxious party gets it. As someone said somewhere else, political correctness goes both ways.
 
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