Full text of Feinstein's bill

It was McCarthy.

We can spend all day bemoaning Feinstein's willful ignorance of firearms, or the sloppy research she did while drafting this law. It doesn't matter.

What matters is reaching out to politicians and seeing that it does not pass.
 
Spats....

We know they want to limit the second ammendment, the huge question is, at what point are they satisfied with the limits they impose?

Keep in mind if this or similar legislation is passed, there will be future legislation to restrict even more.
 
We know they want to limit the second ammendment, the huge question is, at what point are they satisfied with the limits they impose?
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I'm still waiting to see what gun owners are supposed to get out of all this. After all, didn't they want to have a conversation with us?
 
Larry said it best with his awesome letter.

Until the antis- entertain the possibility of an armed guard in every school, in every district, it isn't a conversation. It is a lecture.
 
Arms

I haven't read through the Feinstein bill yet - been studying the NYS SAFE act.
Comment though...
to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited . . . .
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That bit comes from the affirmative decision in the 2008 case of the District of Columbia vs. Heller. Yes, an individual has the right to keep and bear arms....but that right is not unlimited.

Pete
 
Glock 18 vs Glock 17/19?????????? Beretta 92fs vs full auto?
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The G18 was supposedly designed specifically to have different internal parts and a frame and slide that are not interchangeable with the G17.

The Beretta 93R was a variant of the older Beretta 92 with frame-mounted controls. I don't know how different it is internally from the Beretta 92FS with slide-mounted controls.
 
Glock 18 vs Glock 17/19?????????? Beretta 92fs vs full auto?
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Was the glock originally a full-auto? I am pretty sure the G18 was based on the 17 not the other way around. Same with the Beretta 93r. The Beretta 93r is 3 shot burst. or single shot select fire.
 
This whole thing hasn't been polite enough to be called a "lecture," and I don't think the anti-2A folks will ever be satisfied. They'll be satisfied "for now," until the next opportunity. (That last word is pronounced "publicly exploitable tragedy.")
 
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They'll be satisfied "for now," until the next opportunity. (That last word is pronounced "publicly exploitable tragedy.")
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Hmmm...Public Exploitable Tragedy...P.E.T.? I guess thats why they are now pushing their P.E.T. Legislation a lot more this year. Gives a new definition to, ummm, "pet project" or "pet legislation"... Sad really.
 
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the huge question is, at what point are they satisfied with the limits they impose?
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There is no limit. Who was it that posted the sign from an English department store indicating that it is illegal for anyone under 18 to purchase a purchase a "dangerous" set of table cuttlery.

Gosh darn those butter knives and forks.
 
(C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.
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What about aftermarket triggers that may have a lighter trigger pull, less travel and/or a shorter reset? Argument could be made that those factors add up to an increased rate of fire.
 
Say goodby to your slidefire stock

which is (i think) pretty clearly what Diane means to ban with that language. Don't forget, she looked at a lot of pictures of guns and accessories before writing (sorry, making her interns write) this onerous piece of legislation. So she really knows her stuff. Why, i'll bet she can tell a clip from a magazine. Well no, she probably hasn't ever seen a clip, star or stripper.

Anyway, write your congress people. make cogent, potent arguments. Unfortunately, if they have already consumed the Kool-aid, they won't listen - but tell them anyway. Each letter, email or phone call carries the representative weight of hundreds or even thousands of constituents who don't wall or write. Even a committed anti, faced with thousands of communications against a bill, might reconsider. Maybe they don't really have deeply held principles after all, save for re-election instincts.
 
I finally read the beast last night. Several parts caught my interest, but there was one in particular that caught my eye. I don't have my copy with me, so I'll have to paraphrase: "A 'pistol grip' means [insert a couple of particulars] or anything else that functions as a grip."

Unless I'm sadly mistaken, every gun on the market has a place where you're supposed to grip it, right? So every gun has something "that functions as a grip."
 
‘‘(46) The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumb- hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.
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And I thought it was just me! Spats, that certainly appears to be vague enough to mean just about any type of stock.
 
No, Al, it's not just you. I don't know about anyone else, but I always like to hold my guns when I shoot them, so I guess every one of mine has a "pistol grip" by her definition.
 
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