Full Auto, Warning Shots, and Ayoob

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Matt VDW

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This story, courtesy of Massad Ayoob in the June issue of "Combat Handguns" magazine, is too good not to share. (Yeah, I bought one of the "gun rags". I know, I know, I'm terribly uncool.
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It seems a man and his girlfriend had their car chased and run off the road by a pair of thugs. As the thugs approached the car, the man got out with a legally owned Ruger AC556 assault rifle. Apparently the sight of the gun didn't bother the bad guys; they pulled knives and kept approaching. So the man fired a warning burst over their heads. (I have to wonder about the wisdom of hurling multiple .223 slugs into space, but apparently they didn't land anywhere important.) Here you might think the bad guys would reconsider, right? But no, the lead thug stated his contempt for the man and his rifle (in colorful thug-speak, of course) and kept coming. So the good guy fired burst #2 into center mass of Thug #1, dropping him on the spot and immediately persuading Thug #2 to have a change of heart.

The best part of the story is that although the good guy was prosecuted, the jury acquitted him, even without the expert testimony of Mr. Ayoob. Apparently the prosecutor couldn't convince them that the use of a <gasp!> machine gun
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disqualified this from being a legitimate case of self defense.

BTW, the same issue has another good story of a clue-impaired bad guy finishing in second place in a gun fight.
 
Well, I've had more than one LEO tell me these types don't become BG's for nothing ... rather like the Peter Principle. For some of these bozo's, being a brainless thug is the pinnacle of their development.

Perhaps Thug #2 has undertaken a new career. The prosecutor should consider a career change as well ...

Regards from AZ
 
Mas wrote an "Ayoob Files" on Harry Beckwith a few years ago. Harry owns a gunshop in Micanopy, Fl. Anyway a group in two vehicles rammed the door and started loading up, Harry lives next door and responded with a shotgun (not sure which one) and AR-15 and a S&W model 76. Never used the shotgun, dropped it behind the adjacent range as a fall back weapon/position. I think end result was 2 BGs down due to wounds, one expiring after fleeing scene.
Harry had to sit before the Grand Jury for the incident, but a no true bill was returned. BTW he was 61 at the time and did one hell of a job.
Look it up in American Handgunner June/July or Aug/Sep 1996.

Here's a link: www.afn.org/~guns

Click on gunshop and click on the link above picture.

Gator

[This message has been edited by swampgator (edited April 21, 2000).]
 
"clue-impaired"! Doesn't that sum up the Klinton administration.
Great term Matt.

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"Keep shootin till they quit floppin"
The Wife 2/2000
 
Jeff,

Go into the gunstore and on the back wall beside the Parkers there's a photo of a guy in a shooting jacket and his rifle. In the background of the photo is the target. The hole in the photo and corresponding hole in the wall was from ONE of the shootings that has happened there.

Mas did a good job on the article, especially indicating the number of times Harry could have killed legally but didn't.

Gator
 
I thought you left out the funniest part: After the GG fired a full auto burst into the air, the knife wielding BG said "F*ck you and your automatic rifle!" and charged the GG.

Those are some pretty famous last words!
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[This message has been edited by jdthaddeus (edited April 24, 2000).]
 
Sometimes Natural Selection is more than just a theory.

"&*%$ you and your automatic rifle", indeed. Hopefully our Nobel laureate hadn't yet piddled in the gene pool...

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Tamara's House o' Weapons: If we can't kill it, it's immortal.
10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!
 
I disagree:

You left out the :

ARRRGHHH - burble, burble

How about:

I attack you because you hold a Ruger as we know Ruger supported the magazine capacity ... arrghhh, burble, burble.

or

I attack you because I know that the Ruger system is inherently inaccurate and unable to give good groups ARRRGGGH at 100 Burble
yards BURBLE BURBLE

or

Nevermind
 
Perhaps the reasoning of the deceased was as follows:

1) This guy has an assault weapon like the ones I've seen on TV.

2) Assault weapons are evil.

3) An evil weapon is probably loaded with evil bullets.

4) The most evil bullets I've heard about on TV are cop killer bullets.

5) I'm not a cop, therefore the bullets can't kill me.

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You guys are missing the simple explanation, which is:

The BG watched too many episodes of The A-Team where nobody ever got hit with a full-auto mini-14...
 
Yeah, but the A-Team's Minis were fitted with the little-known Saf-T-Shoot adapter on the muzzle. This ensures that your bursts do not actually hit people, causing them trauma and reducing your 'Hero Status'. Instead, your rounds are deflected automatically to impact in the dirt around the villains feet, kicking up a tremendous cloud of dust which makes him either surrender or lunge at you for a fistfight (depending on how near the end of the episode is)...

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Tamara's House o' Weapons: If we can't kill it, it's immortal.
10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!
 
The BG forgot the basic rules of street fighting.

1. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

2. Refer to rule #1.


Best Regards,
Don

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The most foolish mistake we could make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall.
Adolf Hitler
 
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