Frustrated with know-it-all

He who controls the ball, wins the game !!!

When I first read this post, I thought you were talking about an X-Buddy of mine.
It's obvious that these kind of guys are all over the place. ..... :eek:

1) With all due respect, "He gets to you" and you have to work on that. There are many more out there. Don't get me wrong, we can all be had. .. :)

2) You will never control what anyone else, says, thinks and does, only what you say, thinks and do.

3) Any relationship requires a certain amount of investment. We put up with the ways of those that really matter. It's your investment and your call. ..;)

Personally, I don't bother having any relationship with folks like this as life is too short. Whenever I run into a new one, I start talking about Muzzleloaders and stay on that subject. They are soon bored and change the subject. ... ;)

Be Safe !!!
 
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Confront him in a sincere nature and be cordial.
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I would add the idea of "care-fronting" rather than "confronting" the individual, if necessary.

If you speak to the person about the issue, it should be done with the goal of helping THEM, not you and it should absolutely be done IN PRIVATE, just the two of you, according to Matthew 18:15, “If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother."

Dealing with the situation properly will build a relationship based on something besides a cursory discussion of firearms.

It is likely that this persons behavior extends well beyond you and firearms and bringing it under control will only help them.

"Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests but also for the interests of others." (Phil. 2:3-4)

State the problem as you see it.
Avoid sounding accusatory. Use "I" statements rather than "you" statements. We are all prone to over-react and misinterpret. Be prepared for a less than enthusiastic response. Remember Proverbs 15:1 A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

Gently state how you feel and how the problem affects you personally. Again, use "I" words not "you" words. It's not a blame game.

Hopefully, the person is open and willing to look for and work toward a solution.

If the person is unwilling to listen or becomes belligerent and/or wrongs you further, you have a decision to make. Is this an issue that affects The Body? If not, is it something you can overlook and get past, not by avoidance but by genuine forgiveness, or will it continue to cause you problems?

If it's going to continue to cause problems or you believe it is a real problem affecting The Body at large, the answer is found beginning in Matthew 18:16:

But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY [n]FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
 
You know, like many other folks, I had a witty (read: smart-aleck) rejoinder prepared.

Then Peet came and dumped wisdom in our laps. Good on ya, man :)
 
Brickeyee, the author of the quote you cited is Mark Twain, an eminently quotable writer.

He also said:
"The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
 
Hi and welcome to the fray. I see that you are a relative newcomer, so I hope you enjoy the back and forth that goes on here.

As to your "problem", I think we all have had to deal with this to some extent and I have every confidence that you will do the right thing with this guy and time seems to have a way of taking care of most this type stuff.


Also, if you don't like know-it-all's...there are a few resident expositers around here that feel the need to impress everyone with thier indepth insight into and mastery of every aspect of the gun. Hopefully, you will recognize them pretty soon and just ignore their verbose critiques posted to enlighten the masses of the elements that can only be ferreted out by deep thinkers and thier "analytical" ramblings on any thing posted here with which they have an issue...which can seem like everything at times. The real beauty of this place, as opposed to dealing with your neighbor, is that you can state your piece and move on without feeling the need to counter thier rheotoric ad nauseum.

Anyway, don't let obnoxious people rob you of enjoying your great hobby.
 
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Why is he talking about guns in church?
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uhh, because guns are cool?

Most gun people i know are insufferable know-it-alls. I've taken to not talking to anyone except you guys on this forum and a few other forums about guns now. It's worked out well so far.
 
People like that are not going to be my "friend" for very long. I had a similar situation. The guy knew I liked guns and he liked to try to impress me with his "knowledge" about guns. Here's how one conversation went:

Gun Smarty: Hey, I know this guy who's got this UZI machinegun....I bet you'd like it.....would you pay $900 for it?
Me: A machinegun, huh? Full-auto?
Gun Smarty: Yep - says its full auto; I've seen it.
Me: Its registered and he's selling it for $900?
Gun Smarty: Registered? Uh, it doesn't have to be registered, it was grandfathered.
Me: Ehhh, I'm not interested.

The bottom line - I know this guy didn't have a full-auto UZI or knew anyone who had one for sale, legal, illegal or otherwise. He lies about everything, and I'd caught him in numerous lies previously. I can't stand the guy; don't want anything to do with him. The biggest mistake I ever made was even letting him know I had or knew anything about guns. It got to the point where I finally had to tell the man "You're a liar, you know that I've caught you making lies and I don't want to do any business with you."
 
Most gun people i know are insufferable know-it-alls....
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I'd say that's an anomaly, Dave. Every profession, every hobby has a few of those but most learn to avoid them like you have. I say choose your associates wisely, whatever the circumstance.
 
Dont know the psychological term for it...but its in any hobby. I was at a bicycle shop and pulled out a tape measure to measure a stem. The guy told me "that wont work you can't do that". I told him "this will work because im measuring the length of the stem compared to what I have". He shut up but it was one of those situations where he wanted to be in control, impress me with what he knows, for me to play my role of ignorant consumer. Don't get me wrong part of their defensive/offensive nature could be from having to deal with a public armed w internet knowledge. I've never been treated rudely in a gun store but part of that is due to my familiarity w most guns and not being overly confident if im not knowledgeable. But I know the right question to ask. Like at a mechanic...I speak their language so im not going to be ripped off as I am knowledgeable.
 
Offer to take him to the range so you can check out his rifle/scope combo, and so he can check out yours. Maybe then, you can have an honest and open conversation about it.
 
I have a fried that is the same way,but I just listen and invite him to go shoot sometime and show me how good his rifle shoots.....He has NEVER come over to shoot...Go figure that one out....john:eek:
 
agreed w/ 2 previous posts. Happened to me last year w/ a colleague who owns a cool AR who kept giving me gun-related advices ever since...eventually we both went to the range and played with each other's toys.
it's actually a great time ! I didn't outshoot him, but for the fact that I can shoot along him if only 1 MOA less accurate, gained me a gun buddy.
 
Hmm, well obviously the important note is your happy with your guns, i find that's the most important aspect of any purchase it sounds like this guy might be a bit jealous of your guns :D
 
I'd just smile at him and say, "Good for you" when he brings up a subject involving a gun and what a swell deal he got. I would offer no conversation to him about guns and would divert every conversation to a different subject.

I have one person that I deal with sporadically that I treat like that for the same reason. My "conversations" generally revolve around me saying things like, "Yep." "I know what you mean." "Good for you." "Isn't that nice?" "Glad to see you again." "Bye."

It's not worth the effort and wasting your time attempting to have a real interchange of ideas with that type of person. I just try to get out of the situation as quickly as possible without hurting my brain too badly and/or offending them.
 
Why don't you invite him to go shooting with you sometime. If he outshoots you, be gracious and tell him what a nice gun and good shot he is. if you clean his clock with yours, don't be smug, just say you got lucky on a good rifle and you found the sweet load for it. Maybe you can turn this from some sort of adversarial impending conflict into a new friendship, and maybe you'll find some more shooters at your church.

Currently, it doesn't sound like either of you are acting very "church-worthy"
 
Currently, it doesn't sound like either of you are acting very "church-worthy"
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What does that even mean? 'Church worthy'? I thought all were to be accepted into the light of god who seek him.


People used to give me crap about my old obsolete 'piece of crap' war rifles. I just shrug it off and say, "There is a reason there are so many kinds of rifles. So that whatever you don't want I can buy, and vice-versa."
 
Meaning neither is acting a nice towards one another. I was taught to act differently in the church I grew up in- as in acting like I mentioned in my post.
 
I agree that some folks have difficulty communicating and come across the wrong way. I read my thread posts sometimes and man do I feel like a giant PR!Ck the way i word things even though it wasnt my intention.

I have a good friend that is really into guns and he smack talks all time. Actually hes not unlike your friend there always cost comparing. Well at first it really irritated me but then I just accepted the way he is. I enjoy his company and now even his smack talk
 
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