From Concealed to first shot time?

Fast draw is only one part.....

One can argue about the speed. Would 1.5 seconds matter? I don't know. Every shooting has it's own particulars.

Speed .... the ability to draw your firearm and shoot is good to be fast and smooth.... but....

Now what really matters is.... can you hit anything at 5ft, 10ft, 15ft, 20ft?

Take that draw time and shoot.... and now factor in accuracy.

This is where it matters. The speed is only a part of the shooting equation. Hitting the target is "where the rubber meets the road."

Just as in IDPA or USPSA where speed factored with accuracy for your score - if you want to see fast and accurate - you got to check a local match.

You can be really fast but if you can't hit - then you can't shoot fast enough to miss.... If you draw and shoot and it takes you a second longer but you can shoot centermass everytime.... It's just simple which is better.
 
Elvis head --I was talking about no cover in sight. Going for cover 1st goes without saying, IMO. I was talking a scenario where you can't get to cover your only option is to distract and try. If you can get to cover, GET TO COVER. LOL.
 
but really, how much cover is there around you?

walk thru your local mall, even the walls are foam board with tile glued on.

i spent about 5hrs in the mall(dont ask!) and to keep my self entertained i looked for cover.

there was plenty of concealment, but there was NOTHING id trust to stop even a .380, let alone a rifle.

im going to shoot and move, or both at the same time, because i cant be sure there will be cover near enough to me to do any good.
 
Yea good point. I mean concealment is better than nothing. But keep moving, makes you a lot harder to hit. I think thats funny you were killing time looking for cover, thats something I would do. I mean if one of those segways(lol) is the only thing I can duck behind or stand in the open. Remeber the 5 D's of Self Defense. Im going to duck behind the segway and dodge,duck,dip,dive, and dodge;). All while firing back lol.
 
From the holster with a timer it takes me about 1.2 seconds in my average from beep to first bang... Then again I actually practice, and with the retention holsters we use, you have too.
 
Yea, some of those can be difficult to draw quickly. Thats a quick time to from concealed you have to practice very often to get that draw. I do but cant get below 2 seconds before the 1st round.
 
Optimum time would be about 30 seconds. You see the danger coming, quitely draw your weapon to be prepared, create your shooting scenario, prepare your cover, and then if you must, you aim and fire. Anything else and you are probably dead.
 
LoL, mall ninja. I dont think theres any Paul Blarts on this forum:D Teuthis Optimum time would be about 30 seconds. Great point that really is what you want. You want to be prepared so you don't get caught in a situation that requires you to try to outdraw someone. You have to be aware so it doesn't come to that.
 
There has been a time or 2 in my life when I saw a threatening situation develop, and I would hold the fire arm under my left armpit cross armed. The majority of times nothing happened and nobody was any wiser. There was a time or two when I had it in my hands totally unexpected for the bad guys, and they beat feet. It's a trick I learned from my police friends in South Africa. Just don't try and shake any hands this way..;)
 
Sounds like you have good situation awarness. That is key in SD. If you can see it developing, you can be a step ahead, when your attacker thinks your a step behind.
 
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