Former active duty Marine openly carrying handgun turned away from poll location

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Sigh again. You are so missing the point, If you are willing to voluntarily suspend a guaranteed right even for one second .

Sigh all you like...
He did what you just decried:
He voluntarily suspended one of his own rights in favour of another, in this case the right to vote for however many years till the next polls.
How is that better?

The fact is the polling staff made a call.
We all agree it was the wrong one: no one is disputing that.
Saying that what they did was bad is now a moot point.

What remains to be decided is how you deal with that wrong call.

I don't believe boycotting the vote is the way to do it....

I asked for clarification on this earlier, but I don'teven know that Open Carry is part of the Second Amamendment. If it is not, this is not a Second Amendment issue, it is a state law issue and a local official education issue
 
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The gun in question was holstered, not being shoved in anybody's face.

The point remains, if something is a "right," then it shouldn't be subject to the arbitrary whims (or comfort levels) of others.

Telling the man he can't carry (with no law to back that up) is like telling gay people to stay closeted. If I could ban people from doing things I might find uncomfortable or distasteful, there might be a lot of disgruntled people out there.

Instead, if somebody does something that I don't like, but that is not illegal, I generally go elsewhere.

Edit: I agree with Pond. The carrier should have secured the weapon long enough to vote, and then filed either a complaint or a lawsuit. Unless his goal was to gain standing for a bigger lawsuit (IE, he can now state that he was harmed, by being blocked from voting).
 
Sigh again. You are so missing the point. If you are willing to voluntarily suspend a guaranteed right even for one second in order to exercise another guaranteed right, you open the door for someone else to suspend your rights indefinitely.

I don't know if you are up on current events or not, but the guaranteed right about which you speak isn't guaranteed anywhere in the country in which this event took place. It wasn't even guaranteed by the Founding Fathers involved in the penning of the amendment in that they acknowledged that the right to keep and bear arms that shall not be infringed can be taken away from you. How is it a guaranteed right if they can take it from you? Ironic, no?
 
Carrying a gun in the open in unsuitable locations is brandishing a weapon and is very much the equal to kinda sticking it in someone's face. There are people who are scared to death of guns and never even touched one. Sometimes you gotta show a little respect for others. As long as you can carry concealed it's sufficient enough. Besides, those who open carry are more likey to be confronted than someone concealing their weapon. That's a fact that's dictated by common sense. I always preferred plainclothes to being an open target in uniform. Being able to surprise a perp is advantagous with the man carrying concealed and not a showoff wannabe Rambo.

Even when the country was founded their long guns, which realistically would be difficult to conceal and knives were left at the door when go'in to church, social events, court and places where voting took place, so as to not intimidate other voters. I find that most who insist on carrying openly in the most inappropriate places have something lacking in them that they feel either more secure, or more macho by showing off their gun.

This isn't Israel where people are being blown up all the time. They carry full auto Uzi's to the beach while in bathing suits. Who in their right mind would want to live under those conditions? Maybe one day it'll happen even here. I have a wonderful ak I can carry out there, but I prefer not to, cause I've seen too many people killed in my lifetime. If everyone carried open in our cities how would a police officer even know who to challenge?

The 2nd amendment gives us the right to bare arms , which is wonderful, but have the common sense to bare it in your pocket, or under your shirt. There's a time and place for everything, which also includes open carry. If we keep pushing for open carry in inappropriate locations then laws will be passed to ban it and that won't be prevented by quoting the 2nd amendment.
 
Obviously you have no police experience, cause perhaps like I've done on a couple of occassions stopped someone from getting shot. It wasn't very funny and is a little insulting to people who were and are presently in LE. This reply wasn't worth more than a couple of sentences.
 
Irrelevant.

This man was not and did not commit a crime. What he tried to do was not and is not illegal.

Perfectly legal activity was used to prevent his involvement in other perfectly legal activity.

Whether or not it makes us feel warm and fuzzy is irrelevant.

Should someone shouting racial slurs be prohibited from voting because we don't like the way they exercise their freedom of speech?

How about someone who wears a cross, if we happen to be atheists?

How about openly gay folks? Can they vote if I don't like the fact that they don't hide it in public?

THAT'S the point. I can pass off anything I want as being publicaly inappropriate, makes people nervous, lacks common sense, etc, etc.

Whatever. One right we DON'T have is the right to not be uncomfortable or offended by someone else's choices.

This sort of "presumptive, preemptive interference" reminds me of Minority Report.
 
Put on a uniform for crummy pay and strap a gun on in NYC's Washington Heights,or Brownsville in Brooklyn and then give me an educated opinion. It's easy to be casual about non existant rights, while sitting in the safety of your home.

Let someone stick a loaded colt 1908 to your belly and pull the trigger and not discharge due to a light hit to the primer, but go off when tested by the police lab. Right my eyeball. People who want to carry openly should do so in proper surroundings. This ain't Mayberry!

Obviously being a central New Yorker you're capable of protecting yourself, so I'd demand, since you don't require police protection, that you'd be given a reduction in taxes where police are concerned. You have a right to your opinion like I do. Also, please forgive me for being uncomfortable with people walking behind me with guns on their hip. It's just a quirk I had while in uniform.
 
Good on you, Marine. I salute you.

God bless this Marine. He did not falter. He did not waver. He suffered the humiliation and the significant threat of arrest in order to stand up for his rights. He did not allow lies and false authority to strip him of his rights and his dignity. Even though he no longer wears the uniform, duty- honor- country still echoes in his deeds and demeanor.

Those that say ill of all who open carry seem quite narrow minded. It is open carry that is recognized as the right by the supreme court and concealed carry that the supreme court has relegated to behavior of scoundrels and cowards.

If fundamental rights can so easily be stripped away by the arbitrary feelings of others, then what rights are really safe?

Live Free or Die
 
There's quite a bit I could say about this topic... But I will refrain and simply close this thread.

Emotions are running and the discussion has become heated to the point that just about all actors are talking past each other. No one is actually listening to the other side.

Closed before anyone gets booted.
 
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