For those who think sighted fire won't work at close range

Deaf Smith

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From John Farnam.

http://www.defense-training.com/quips/10Mar09.html

10 Mar 09

A student emerges victorious from a dangerous confrontation:

"Back in 2000, you provided handgun training to a large class, including me. I had been a target competitor for many years, but your class changed my paradigm to serious, tactical application, rather than casual recreation. Two things stuck with me most: (1) Spin your OODA Loop quickly, and (2) when a fight is unavoidable, be stitching and moving!

Thank you! That philosophical shift saved my life this last February!

Late on a weekday afternoon last month, two home-invasion suspects kicked in the front door of my home, as I sat watching television. I was alone in the house at the time. There was no warning, nor did I have any reason to suspect such a thing would happen to me that day, or any day. I remember being astonished as I saw the bottom of a foot still raised as my door lurched open, amid a shower of splinters!

The door-kicker, and an accomplice, burst in, and, seeing me, rushed toward me. I was wearing my G38 (45GAP) in a Comp-Tac holster. It was loaded with WW 230gr Ranger ammunition. I sprung to my feet and drew my pistol simultaneously. At a distance of less than eight feet, I found my front sight and began firing at the closest suspect, while I was still in motion.

As it turns out, I fired seven shots. All seven struck the first suspect (the door-kicker). His accomplice was behind him and immediately fled, unharmed as far as I know. In fact, he fled in such haste that he abandoned his getaway car, leaving the engine running! Police subsequently found much stolen property in the car.

The suspect I shot stumbled backward and fell in the doorway, never moving after he went down. I scanned, reloaded, took cover behind a corner, and checked myself over. When police arrived, they found the suspect I had shot, DRT. The second suspect has not been arrested as far as I know. I was unhurt.

Of the seven hits on the first suspect, one in the neck and one in the chest proved fatal. I was told that either of those two shots would probably have been fatal by itself. Being cold at the time, both suspects were wearing heavy clothing, and multiple layers of clothing frustrated expansion, and penetration, of the other five. They may have been effective, but I'll never know.

Here is what others among your students can learn from my experience:

(1) When at home, stay armed! If my gun had been locked in a safe, or even in a drawer and unloaded, I never could have reacted effectively in time. Be armed all the time, no matter where you are!

(2) Multiple shots from your pistol will probably be necessary to stop any fight decisively, no matter what caliber or brand of ammunition you're using. As a category, pistols are poor fight-stoppers. Accordingly, pistols that hold lots of ammunition, and that can be reloaded quickly, represent a real advantage!

(3) Be prepared to react instantly! Sometimes, there are warning signs. Sometimes, there are none! In order to live through your next lethal encounter, you'll have to be able to spin your OODA Loop fast.

(4) Finish the fight! Don't relax too soon. Scan, reload, get distance, get cover. Be prepared for anything!

(5) Whatever you do, it won't be perfect! Don't worry about being perfect. Just act decisively, without hesitation. Do what has to be done, with grace and enthusiasm. Don't look back, and don't worry about what might have been!"

Comment: I'll add:

(5) Use ammunition that penetrates adequately! Your bullets may have to plow through many layers of clothing before ever reaching flesh, as was the case here. There are many fine, high-performance rounds available, but Cor-Bon DPX tops the list, because it penetrates and expands, without fail! It's what I carry.

My student is a real hero. He dared, and he won.

Victory!

/John
 
Wow, simply amazing.

Good to see things worked out for our friend here. Not as good as not happening at all, of course, but a lot better than it could have.

+1 to the good guys.
 
"(1) When at home, stay armed! If my gun had been locked in a safe, or even in a drawer and unloaded, I never could have reacted effectively in time. Be armed all the time, no matter where you are!"

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! It keeps the kids away from the loaded firearm as well.

"What are you afraid of that you carry a gun every where?"

"I'm not afraid. I have a gun!"
 
I'm a bit confused. Who are these people who think sighted fire won't work at close range? AFAIK, most everyone supporting target-focused shooting always says to use the sights whenever you can, close or far, and use target focus when you can't use the sights.
 
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I'm a bit confused. Who are these people who think sighted fire won't work at close range?

+1 on that.

I've never heaard anyone in TFL say sighted fire won't work at close range. What HAS been said is you may not HAVE TIME for sighted fire and you should practice "point and shoot", too.

A BG can cover 20 feet in less than two seconds. Draw, sight and fire in that time? Try it.
 
different trainers are tripping over each other trying to get credit for having trained this guy to carry at home, gotx, shootem to the ground, etc. pretty comical to read some of what they write.
 
A BG can cover 20 feet in less than two seconds. Draw, sight and fire in that time? Try it.

Actually, it's not that hard. There is a training technique called the "progressive draw drill" which is a great way to increase your draw-to-shot time. While I'm by no means a top level competitive shooter, I can draw, get the front sight, and have a my first round downrange in a little under a second using a Serpa holster, and a little faster when I use a holster without the Serpa lock. Sighted fire at short ranges in small amounts of time is simply a matter of training and practice, as was aptly demonstrated by the referenced story from Mr. Farnam's student.
 
Great for the GG to win. Which news chanel can I check out the full story on? I'm interested to see if the GG, the shooter has ant problems, I read a post earlier on when its ok to shoot (and what trouble (legal) you might get into? :)

Or is it just an advert for a tactical training school? ;)
 
Maybe you should have titled the thread: For those that think being armed at home is paranoia.

:D

So I, as a seller of head mounted lightning rods, should post a story about a man who survived a strike 'cuz he was wearing one, with the title being:

For Those Who Think Wearing a Lightning Rod on their Head is Paranoid?
:p
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Well, there were really two options for this thread, which were either "carry at home all the time" or "aimed-fired vs. point-shooting". I'd have preferred the latter, but that's only because the aimed-vs-point shooting debate roflols my copters.
 
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