Wildalaska
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Again Wild where would it be appropriate to stop asking for the info? Locally, state wide, nation wide?
Wherever they need to ask.
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Again Wild where would it be appropriate to stop asking for the info? Locally, state wide, nation wide?
Every firearm transferred in the US is supposed to be reported to the FBI, both long guns and hand guns. Some states do not cooperate, in part or at all, but in those states that do not cooperate, the FFL is required to fill out the form.Don H said:The make and model is not called in on a NCIS check, just the type of firearm. Some states are not required to do a NCIS check.
In many states, private party transfers are not required to be reported, just transfers through an FFL. There is no federal law requiring reporting of private party transfers.baldeagl1 said:Every firearm transferred in the US is supposed to be reported to the FBI, both long guns and hand guns.
Untrue. Many states allow private-party sales, and those are not reported. If the transfer goes through an FFL, a 4473 is required. The requirement that FFL's do the 4473 is Federal, and is required in all states.Every firearm transferred in the US is supposed to be reported to the FBI, both long guns and hand guns. Some states do not cooperate, in part or at all, but in those states that do not cooperate, the FFL is required to fill out the form.
Nope. NICS only knows the type of weapon (handgun, long gun, or "other"). They do not ask for make, model or serial number. Furthermore, the buyer's address is not recorded.And yes, they do not have make, model or serial number in the NICS database, but they do know the name and address and type of gun (long gun or handgun) of every registered firearm transfer.
Sarge said:...and I'll say this one more time... only toward the purpose of solving a specific crime.
Every firearm transferred in the US is supposed to be reported to the FBI, both long guns and hand guns. Some states do not cooperate, in part or at all, but in those states that do not cooperate, the FFL is required to fill out the form.
And yes, they do not have make, model or serial number in the NICS database, but they do know the name and address and type of gun (long gun or handgun) of every registered firearm transfer.
This brings up a whole lot of questions, including the legality of the requests. The tone of the report suggested that they are seeking voluntary cooperation, not demanding records.
The saying "Once they get their foot in the door" comes to mind.
The attitude and paranoia on here of some people is really amazing...
No need to be a wise a$% about it, if you misunderstood. Maybe I should have followed up, elaborated on the saying....
Absolutely. Elaborate fishing isn't illegal in anyway. As noted previously, it can all be part of a triangulation process. They have one corner of the "triangle" so far, or they think they do. They probably have a lot of other information that may or may not fit anything, but they won't know until finding patterns, sequences, commonalities that might lead to additional information (that they may or may not already have). Connecting the dots is hardest if you don't have all the dots. Even if you do, you still have to figure out which ones to connect, not connect, and in what order.Perhaps, this is just a rather elaborate fishing expedition?