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Appreciate you sharing that experience, I would say every single chart at the VA contains at least one error.... usually more. It is a function that most charts are "free-written" and very very subject to human error - deliberate and unintentional. It is very difficult to "carry forward" information error-free. I make them too. Sorry that happened to you and the resident.

There is a PTSD screen for most visits because the VA very much wants to identify vets who may be interested in help and the stigma is somewhat lessening and a solid 20+ vets I know finally - just - went to start seeing groups etc. It is usually done by nursing at the onset of the visit. Same with depression. Those results are not explicitly recorded by your physician unless they want to.

Not all VAs are the same, each VISN has it's own protocols, enhancements/ tools in the base software. Our usual templates and "reminders" which have click-select options just don't have a firearms question.
 
Mr. X said:
There is a PTSD screen for most visits because the VA very much wants to identify vets who may be interested in help and the stigma is somewhat lessening and a solid 20+ vets I know finally - just - went to start seeing groups etc. It is usually done by nursing at the onset of the visit. Same with depression. Those results are not explicitly recorded by your physician unless they want to.
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You are correct about there being PTSD screens for most visits. I started to be aware of them about two years ago. However, I strongly STRONGLY disagree with your assessment that "the stigma is lessening." The VA health care system doesn't have enough money to fulfill its obligations. The .gov is willing to throw money at the VA to treat PTSD, so the result is that the VA is trying it's hardest to classify as many people as possible as having PTSD.

The problem with that is that those people may get some help with their PTSD, but they also get reported to the .gov and classified as people who can't possess firearms. And once you get stuck in the pigeonhole it's almost impossible to get reclassified as "safe." They tell the vets that "the stigma is lessening" in order to convince more people to sign on for PTSD therapy, but they don't tell those people they may be giving up their constitutional RKBA for the remainder of their lives by so doing.

Catch 22.
 
Won't deny that being a catch 22.

I will confess my ignorance that I do not know the exact mechanism by which a mental health employee of the VA makes an attestation that can lead to an adjudication or NICS report that temporarily or permanently would revoke rkba. Based on all the other things that need a formal written attestation or declaration it would seem to have to be greater than the "chart" or "note" said person may write or results of a PTSD scene designed for sensitivity and not specificity.

I don't know how transparent the NICS reporting mechanisms are for criminal judgments, much less mental health ones. Maybe our legal colleagues have more experience with that. Still appreciate your thoughts on this process.
 
I have a good rapport with my Dr. and we are both gun people. as a matter of fact I just traded a box of 45LC for a box of 45ACP with him.
 
It was my understanding that the feds were requiring this sort of inquiry as part of Obamacare mandates, which means to me they're keeping records. No one asked me at my last physical, but it was a question on a form I got along with a couple others like seat belt use. I put "none of your business" for all of them and no one ever mentioned it again.

A friend gave me a warning this was coming. Her kid's pediatrician started in on her about it. She switched pediatricians over it. My guess is, particularly when you have a small child, it's a dangerous question to answer truthfully if you do have guns. After all we live in a society that takes kids away from people who let them go to a park.
 
As a group, pediatricians have been leading the charge to poke their noses into the issue of gun ownership by parents. Not all pediatricians, of course, but enough to be worrisome.

Never EVER allow a pediatrician (or his/her assistants) to interview your child when you are not present. If you own guns, be sure to explain to your children that they do NOT answer any questions about GUNZ!. The approriate response for the child is, "I don't know, ask Mommy/Daddy."

The appropriate response for Mommy/Daddy is "No."
 
As someone that has been shot I have had only one doctor ask me if I owned or had access to a gun. He had been my doctor for a while, still is, and I answered him honestly. That was years ago and he hasn't brought it up since.
 
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