Flashlights for self defense
- Thread starter black bear 84
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Didn't they use that thing in the movie "Krull"? 
Or maybe it was "The Sword and the Sorcerer"...
Seriously, though. We talk in lots of threads about the acceptability of knives in normal everyday society, and some people say that nasty-looking knives are part of the problem we have with knife culture being accepted by the "sheeple"... and then we have to go and weaponize flashlights?
I'm sorry, I just don't see it. If some believe that a simple Kubotan is an effective defensive weapon, I don't see why a flashlight has to have, well, prongs sticking out from it. And nobody is fooled when we give a wink and a nod and say that they're "to let light escape when the flashlight is stood crown-down."
I think that there are things we can do to avoid negative attention.
I had no problem bringing an Inova T-2 on commercial flights back and forth FL to NY last year. If you want them to ban aluminum-bodied flashlights in toto, keep making weapon-flashlights like these. The first time one makes the news in a crime or a questionable defensive use, they will be added to the TSA's forbidden-items list. Mark my words.
-Jeffrey
Or maybe it was "The Sword and the Sorcerer"...
Seriously, though. We talk in lots of threads about the acceptability of knives in normal everyday society, and some people say that nasty-looking knives are part of the problem we have with knife culture being accepted by the "sheeple"... and then we have to go and weaponize flashlights?
I'm sorry, I just don't see it. If some believe that a simple Kubotan is an effective defensive weapon, I don't see why a flashlight has to have, well, prongs sticking out from it. And nobody is fooled when we give a wink and a nod and say that they're "to let light escape when the flashlight is stood crown-down."
I think that there are things we can do to avoid negative attention.
I had no problem bringing an Inova T-2 on commercial flights back and forth FL to NY last year. If you want them to ban aluminum-bodied flashlights in toto, keep making weapon-flashlights like these. The first time one makes the news in a crime or a questionable defensive use, they will be added to the TSA's forbidden-items list. Mark my words.
-Jeffrey
Double Naught Spy
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I don't think it is so much that flashlights are used often in self defense as much as saying small clubs or batons with lights are used in self defense. The light projection isn't what is working for the self defense aspect.
Black Bear 84 showed the TIDs. In reality, those are just heated ice scrapers that can be used at night where the light lets you see what you are doing and the xenon bulb produces heat to help loosen the ice that is being mechanically attacked by the bezel points.
Black Bear 84 showed the TIDs. In reality, those are just heated ice scrapers that can be used at night where the light lets you see what you are doing and the xenon bulb produces heat to help loosen the ice that is being mechanically attacked by the bezel points.
black bear 84
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Concerning that Surefire E2D Defender I am going to quote a guy from another forum and his experience with that light.
Mannlicher
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I am sticking with my MagLight rechargable. This flashlight is a lot more powerful than a regular D battery model, and it stays charged. The burn time is longer than the regular model also. Being heavy, and clublike, it is very much good for defense. BTW, you can buy about 6 of them for the price of one of those fancy little Surefire lights.
black bear 84
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Mannlicher,
The torch you have is called the Magcharger, it is the same size as the Maglite 3 D (12 1/2 inches long) and weights one pound 13 oz.
It will produce 200 lumens for about the first 30 minutes, declining in output as the battery (Ni Cad) drains.
However is the best of the Police rechargeables flashlights (Stinger etc) except for the sole exception of the Tiger light that put over 250 lumens.
However all those police flashlights that still cling to old technology Ni Cad are missing the best of the Nimhs and Lithium Ion technology, much more FLAT OUTPUT and the ability to run high amperage bulbs.
I have a little light (made on the Maglite 2 "C" host, 13 oz. 9" long) that I have modified with Lithium Ion batteries, that produces 181 lumens and run for 1 1/2 hours, here is a picture with the comparison of lights and batteries,
The little 2 C light and the two Lithium Ion batteries and the Magcharger with the heavy battery Ni Cad.
The little light run the same upgrade Xenon bulb that can be put in the regular Maglite 5 D, the two compare side by side exactly and the difference from 200 lumens to 181 lumens is not noticeable.
Beside the special batteries provide a flat output to the end of the charge.
The technology of Nimhs rechargeable batteries is even better, by using a special battery carrier and special high amperage super-bulb; I can put nine AA rechargeable Nimhs batteries with high amperage and high capacity, and run a 1050 lumens bulb for 45 minutes in a Maglite 3 D specially modified for that.
The special battery carrier
Such light blow out of the water any other Police flashlight made today,
Magcharger 200 lumens
Stinger 220 lumens
Tiger Light 250 lumens
Surefire M-6 (six 123's every 20 minutes) 500 lumens.
As battery chemistry is improving constantly, in the future we will have better power sources.
As an example, Sanyo is coming by the end of the year, with a rechargeable Nimh battery that will keep its charge for years (the Eneloop battery) rivaling primary alkaline batteries.
The future will look "brighter" with the new batteries that are close to be introduced in the market.
black bear
The torch you have is called the Magcharger, it is the same size as the Maglite 3 D (12 1/2 inches long) and weights one pound 13 oz.
It will produce 200 lumens for about the first 30 minutes, declining in output as the battery (Ni Cad) drains.
However is the best of the Police rechargeables flashlights (Stinger etc) except for the sole exception of the Tiger light that put over 250 lumens.
However all those police flashlights that still cling to old technology Ni Cad are missing the best of the Nimhs and Lithium Ion technology, much more FLAT OUTPUT and the ability to run high amperage bulbs.
I have a little light (made on the Maglite 2 "C" host, 13 oz. 9" long) that I have modified with Lithium Ion batteries, that produces 181 lumens and run for 1 1/2 hours, here is a picture with the comparison of lights and batteries,
The little 2 C light and the two Lithium Ion batteries and the Magcharger with the heavy battery Ni Cad.
The little light run the same upgrade Xenon bulb that can be put in the regular Maglite 5 D, the two compare side by side exactly and the difference from 200 lumens to 181 lumens is not noticeable.
Beside the special batteries provide a flat output to the end of the charge.
The technology of Nimhs rechargeable batteries is even better, by using a special battery carrier and special high amperage super-bulb; I can put nine AA rechargeable Nimhs batteries with high amperage and high capacity, and run a 1050 lumens bulb for 45 minutes in a Maglite 3 D specially modified for that.
The special battery carrier
Such light blow out of the water any other Police flashlight made today,
Magcharger 200 lumens
Stinger 220 lumens
Tiger Light 250 lumens
Surefire M-6 (six 123's every 20 minutes) 500 lumens.
As battery chemistry is improving constantly, in the future we will have better power sources.
As an example, Sanyo is coming by the end of the year, with a rechargeable Nimh battery that will keep its charge for years (the Eneloop battery) rivaling primary alkaline batteries.
The future will look "brighter" with the new batteries that are close to be introduced in the market.
black bear
black bear 84
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HI GUYS,
SORRY TO BOTHER PEOPLE WITH THIS, BUT I HAVE TO MAKE A NAME CORRECTION TO COMPLY WITH THE LAWYERS REQUEST
YES, it have been a name change, my light is called now the BOREALIS.
MAG Instruments (the owners of Maglite) has asked me to remove the name MAG from my flashlight postings
It seems that it is a registered trademark.
I am compliying with their request and calling my light BOREALIS.
Thank you
black bear
SORRY TO BOTHER PEOPLE WITH THIS, BUT I HAVE TO MAKE A NAME CORRECTION TO COMPLY WITH THE LAWYERS REQUEST
YES, it have been a name change, my light is called now the BOREALIS.
MAG Instruments (the owners of Maglite) has asked me to remove the name MAG from my flashlight postings
It seems that it is a registered trademark.
I am compliying with their request and calling my light BOREALIS.
Thank you
black bear
superpelly
New member
Just shock the hell out of them
http://www.beststungun.com/flashlight-stun-guns.html
http://www.beststungun.com/flashlight-stun-guns.html
black bear 84
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At short distances the LED's will seem to be brighter, but at longer distances the incandescents bulbs will outperform the LED's in detail definition.
Also incandescents are better performers in fog rain and smoke (that is why you don't see firefighters using LED's)
While I like Luxeons lights and I use them, I mostly confine them to house chores and to look inside the hood of the car or change a tire (they are superior here due to the better flood coverage)
cheers
black bear