FL Deputy Shows Up At Wrong Address, Uses Taser Gun On Marine

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I think the Marine should've complied. The cop would've discovered the truth soon enough.

Then again, once I was arrested for a ticket that had become a warrant. I'm always polite & compliant with the cops, but this a-hole slapped the cuffs on me so freaking tight, my hands went numb almost immediatly. Some cops are power-mad sadists. He also refused to let me make any arrangements for my dog who was locked up in my truck. Once I got to the station, they cited & released me. Some were even wondering why I'd been arrested, as my record showed I was the cream of the crop.
 
Some were even wondering why I'd been arrested, as my record showed I was the cream of the crop.
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I don't know the details of your situation, but a warrant is actually:

Warrant- A written order from a magistrate, directed to a peace officer or some other person specifically named, commanding him/her to take the body of the person accused of an offense, to be dealt with according to law.

http://www.charges-dropped.com/law-glossary.html

-A court document which directs a law enforcement officer to arrest a person and bring him/her to court.

http://207.176.67.2/police/va/termsa.html
 
I am not defending anyone due to lack of information, but the MARINE should have known better than to argue or "resist". What would a MARINE do if he was in the cops situation? Probably kill the bastard....
 
Further evidence that Eddie Haskelling up is always in your best interest when dealing with the po-po. :D

Why ruin an opportunity to be a "perfect plaintiff"? Oops, sorry. :p
 
Officer's Discretion

I don't know the details of your situation, but a warrant is actually: Warrant- A written order from a magistrate, directed to a peace officer or some other person specifically named, commanding him/her to take the body of the person accused of an offense, to be dealt with according to law.
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3Bad1, yes, I understand the meaning, & so did the cops who thought my arrest was unnecessary. Their reaction was basically that the violation was so minor that arresting me was a waste of time, money, & manpower, especially considering my father had just suffered a heart attack that afternoon & I was managing his affairs in an emergency. Also, some cops in the department implicitly agreed that "Danny" was an overbearing sadist.

A warrant may be written in black & white, but it's grey in between the lines.
 
What would a MARINE do
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Sorry to take this quote out of context, but as far as the partial quote goes, when a Marine is ambushed, he attacks, he doesn't fall back. With all the talk of training on this forum, why would you expect a Marine just returned from combat to forget his training? Yet another example of the cause for my disdain for those who feel LE are the only ones properly trained to handle weapons or to protect us. (Please note where the disdain is directed).
 
So tired of this kind of stuff

Why can't some people get it ... When an Officer gives you an order, you comply. That’s the way the game is played. It will never matter who is right or wrong, LE has the authority to take control of the situation and then sort out issues.
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enter rant mode

BS!!

LEOs are people and citizens just like everybody else. In this country there is not supposed to be a "protected class" the law is supposed to be equally applied - that means equal, not exceptions for some people.

Ok, if the LEO takes control and makes a judgement call that is wrong he needs to fess up and face the music, just like anybody else in the real world does. In business I make judgement calls, if I am wrong I get called on it and if I am wrong often enough I will get fired/go broke/not be able to get another job doing the same thing, its a natural consequence.

If that is in fact the law it should be changed. I am going to research this in Ohio. I doubt it would stand a constitutional challenge if it is in fact written in a way to allow the above to be true.

As this story demonstrates they don't always make valid or correct decisions. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY what part of that is hard to understand. Instead of training LEOs how to get around peoples civil rights in the academy they should be training them how to protect peoples civil rights....

The cop should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. He/she should also be smacked upside the head for harassing a defender of his/her liberty.

Another point would be - if I am not breaking any law and a cop gives me an order, in this country I get to say no unless martial law has been declared. I am not here for the government, it is here for me. Get that straight and remember it.

I would fight to the death to protect your right to disagree with me, however we need to not tolerate government acting without consequence. If they are overstepping or just plain wrong they need to be called on it.

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Situationaly if presented with evidence that the officer may be mistaken about the address the duty would be for the officer to quickly find the correct address - domestic violence can be deadly for those involved and wasting time at the wrong address could mean somebody is dead...

Typically don't multiple officers arrive at domestics? If the situation at the marines house sounds quiet and appears to be sane at the moment why not have the other officer check out the suggested address....
 

Typically don't multiple officers arrive at domestics? If the situation at the marines house sounds quiet and appears to be sane at the moment why not have the other officer check out the suggested address....

because cops who think they are above the law.. know they are also protected by others who are above the law...
 
Get real.

However the LEO arrived at the address, whether his fault, dispatcher's fault or the reporting person's fault, he arrived thinking he was confronting persons having a domestic dispute. He doesn't know if the man in front of him is a Medal of Honor winner or Charles Manson. He has to make the situation safe for himself and the others present and then figure out what is going on.

Cops don't point guns at people, mace them or zap them just as they open the door on a generic domestic call. Had the man simply complied with the officer, nothing would have happened. Instead, the man jacked up the situation until the officer had to take physical action. The officer still doesn't know who this guy is or what he has or has not done and he isn't going to find out until he can get some information.

For what ever reason, the LEO was at the wrong address. For what ever reason, the resident decided not to cooperate in clearing up the misunderstanding. BOTH sides made mistakes.

One of the ways self defense shootings are justified is to ask the question, "How would a reasonable person, placed in that situation, react and what actions would he take." Put yourself in the LEO's place. What actions would you take if placed at that door with the same information?
 
Get real my backside...

However the LEO arrived at the address, whether his fault, dispatcher's fault or the reporting person's fault, he arrived thinking he was confronting persons having a domestic dispute. He doesn't know if the man in front of him is a Medal of Honor winner or Charles Manson. He has to make the situation safe for himself and the others present and then figure out what is going on.
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Get real my backside...

This is what will happen - the marine will face criminal charges, have that on his record for the rest of his life.

The cop at worst will get a written reprimand and a few days paid vacation...

THE COP WENT TO THE WRONG ADDRESS and quite probably got belligerent with the marine as cops so often do when they are challenged or even questioned.

If they both screwed up I will accept that, they both should face equal charges (probably stupidity in the 4th for both of them).

The citizens of this country do not have to be compliant little lap dogs for the convenience of the government. As I said before the government is here for the people not the other way around.

Some of you may think, big freaking deal it happened it is over. The problem is that it is not over, it keeps happening. We tolerate this and it just keeps getting worse. I personally am not willing to trade my rights for security.

As far as not knowing what he is facing, well that can happen to anybody. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY - yeah yeah yeah officer safety... Officer safety is an excuse used to exercise police brutality and violate peoples civil rights. Officer safety would have been to stay out of the guys apartment, it would have been to verify the address from the caller before knocking on the door.

All of that said, none of us truly knows what happened. We were not there, only the cop and the Marine truly know what happened. Heck maybe the marine had a weapon in hand, and the cop cut him a break and did not report that part of the situation...

Maybe the cop got insulted and lost his temper and the family is afraid to step up and tell the truth out of fear...
 
Funny thing after that last post, I notice black helicopters and suburbans with tinted windows in my neighborhood.... :cool:

Look I dont want to insult people and despite what the previous post looks like, I do respect most police officers. If you see some other posts I have made you will see that I think there are far to few of them and they are underpaid for the job they do.

I just have some strong feelings about what this country is supposed to be and I see it being eaten away little by little...

A good friend, a guy I grew up with from the 3rd grade on (I am 35 now) is an officer and a darn good one at that. I flip him crap like this once in a while, he can usually point out the mistakes made by the officers that get themselves into these situations. Maybe that is another example of where we are failing our civil servants. Maybe we need to get some more of the experienced officers working with the new guys longer. Maybe extend the FTO period for some of these people.

One thing that has to happen is people need to be more involved with there government. I communicate with my legislatures, maybe I should write a letter to the Sherrif and the Chief also (though not when I am in rant mode :o ), explain what I want from my government. If more people did that things might change. May not be what I personally want, but it may be truly closer to the will of the people...
 
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tall...al/11350965.htm

Deputy resigns in Taser incident

By Todd Wright

DEMOCRAT STAFF WRITER


A rookie Leon County Sheriff's deputy has turned in his badge after an internal investigation concluded he wrongfully used a Taser on a local U.S. Marine reservist.

At a news conference Friday, Sheriff Larry Campbell issued a public apology to Cpl. Demar Jackson, who was the target of Deputy John Daly's Taser on March 7, and subsequently arrested and charged with resisting arrest without violence. Campbell said the charges have been dropped.

"Pure and simple, we made a mistake," said a somber-faced Campbell, who has been a statewide advocate on the effectiveness of Tasers in law enforcement. "The arrest was wrong. The tasing was wrong."

He also said Daly would have been fired if he had not resigned. The county is currently reviewing its Taser use policies to see if any changes need to be made.

The news reached a surprised and relieved Jackson, who had returned from a six-month military tour of duty in Africa just days before the incident.

"I really can't put it into words right now," said the 30-year-old who is still on active duty with the Company C, 8th Tank Battalion, U.S. Marine Reserves. "It's been constantly on my mind. I thought about it every waking moment."

The two-week internal investigation concluded that Daly, who had been on the force since October, did not follow Sheriff's Office procedure while dealing with Jackson during their encounter.

Daly was responding to a domestic-disturbance call at Jackson's apartment complex, off Meridian Road. When the deputy arrived, Jackson was standing outside. After a brief verbal exchange between the two, in which Jackson tried to tell Daly he had the wrong guy, Daly pulled his Taser and eventually shot Jackson in the chest and abdomen.

Daly wrote in his report that he felt justified in shooting Jackson because Jackson did not turn around after three commands to do so.

Other deputies arrived on the scene moments later, and after a small conference, realized that the apartment they should have responded to was next door. Jackson was still taken to jail.

Campbell said Daly assumed Jackson was the suspect and not a witness.

"The deputy did not violate the law, but he did not follow the policy of the Sheriff's Office," he said. "He did not communicate well with anyone in this instance, including this office."

Jackson was pleased to hear that the charges had been dropped, but was unsure if he would pursue a civil lawsuit against the Sheriff's Office.

"To know that the criminal charges are gone feels like a big burden has been lifted off my shoulders," he said. "It's almost closure."
 
Yes, get real.

Just out of curiosity, you're driving through town and are suddenly surrounded by a dozen police cars with their lights flashing? Seems your car matches exactly the getaway car of someone that just knocked off the local bank and killed two guards.

You are innocent. The cops have the wrong car and are stopping you for no reason. What do you do? Keep driving? Stop and start yelling at the cops? Ignore their commands during a felony car stop?

If the LEO had performed a no-knock warrant and hit the wrong apartment and the guy fought back, I'd be in complete agreement that he did nothing wrong. However, when a LEO in uniform knocks on your door, how hard is it to be polite, identify yourself and explain to him there is no domestic argument going on in this apartment?

If the cop was being belligerent, file a complaint with the department. Do not start a fight with him, especially given the fact you have no chance of winning. Even if he is 100% in the wrong, there are more cops than there are of you and they will take you down.
 
However, when a LEO in uniform knocks on your door, how hard is it to be polite, identify yourself and explain to him there is no domestic argument going on in this apartment?
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I disagree.
 
A rookie Leon County Sheriff's deputy has turned in his badge after an internal investigation concluded he wrongfully used a Taser on a local U.S. Marine reservist.

A rookie Leon County Sheriff's deputy has turned in his badge after an internal investigation concluded he wrongfully used a Taser on a local U.S. Marine reservist.

A rookie Leon County Sheriff's deputy has turned in his badge after an internal investigation concluded he wrongfully used a Taser on a local U.S. Marine reservist.

A rookie Leon County Sheriff's deputy has turned in his badge after an internal investigation concluded he wrongfully used a Taser on a local U.S. Marine reservist.

A rookie Leon County Sheriff's deputy has turned in his badge after an internal investigation concluded he wrongfully used a Taser on a local U.S. Marine reservist.

Now my question is: why was this officer then not arrested and thrown in jail, to be brought forth infront of a judge?

pigs need not reply. However, I would love to hear how a lawful police officer, who does not think LEO's are above the law, feels.
 
"Pure and simple, we made a mistake," said a somber-faced Campbell, who has been a statewide advocate on the effectiveness of Tasers in law enforcement. "The arrest was wrong. The tasing was wrong."



That's frigging great. You admit you made a "mistake". Why the HELL are you not treating this pig exactly like a normal citizen?

Oh wait..

This is just a case of the "Fraternal order of criminals" protecting their own frigging criminal.

If this sheriff was a *REAL* officer of the law, he would have arrested this officer, and put him infront of a judge.
 
Now my question is: why was this officer then not arrested and thrown in jail, to be brought forth infront of a judge?

pigs need not reply. However, I would love to hear how a lawful police officer, who does not think LEO's are above the law, feels
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"The deputy did not violate the law, but he did not follow the policy of the Sheriff's Office," he said. "He did not communicate well with anyone in this instance, including this office."
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I still contend that had the marine just chilled out and let the LEO check out the situation, none of this would have happened.
 
Perhaps I'm missing something BUT was the Marine at the apartment in question . I'm also thinking maybe the officer read the number incorrectly . I would think that since the Marine was just talking the deputy had ample opportunity to call for back-up even from a distance so the confrontation would not escalate . If he tried to flee then a "stop" order would have been called for . It sounds like he just told the cop that he had the wrong apartment and just stood there . There was no one being beaten or killed so there was time for a senior officer to sort out the details . After the Taser was used the other cops had no choice but to arrest the Marine . They had to close ranks even for just a day or so . I'm glad the truth came out BUT perhaps the deputy didn't need to lose his job . He learned a valuable lesson as have many people in their lives . We had a guy move his mortar adjustment the wrong way and almost kill a bunch of guys . They changed his MOS but he was still in the service . The deputy probably just got scared for a second and did a boo-boo.
 
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