Stevie-Ray
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Aah, that sucks. My last renewal was 2-05. Oh well, NICS takes only a minute. Thanks for the info, anyway.
first time handgun buying processs in MI?
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I live in Michigan and have bought several handguns from other states. I have bought them from, and through Cabela's, and Gander Mtn. I do have a cpl here, so that made it easier on my end, in the end, but I just called whichever place had the gun, and had them verify with my local store that I was who I said I was, and was actually going to be the purchaser. It has always gone slick and smooth. Half the handguns I own came to me this way.
I sometimes had to pay a ship to charge, and others I didn't. Both outfits have always worked with me on that to save me money.
As long as you have whatever permits are required on your end, sending a gun dealer to dealer is no more complicated than that same dealer ordering from a jobber.
I sometimes had to pay a ship to charge, and others I didn't. Both outfits have always worked with me on that to save me money.
As long as you have whatever permits are required on your end, sending a gun dealer to dealer is no more complicated than that same dealer ordering from a jobber.
I have a question for Michigan residents.
If you own a handgun that you bought with a permit and you want to sell it to an out of state buyer, are there any procedures the seller has to go through with the state of Michigan, besides the FFL transfer that we all have to do?
Thanks,
If you own a handgun that you bought with a permit and you want to sell it to an out of state buyer, are there any procedures the seller has to go through with the state of Michigan, besides the FFL transfer that we all have to do?
Thanks,
You can sell out of state with no issues. You will have a firearm transfer form in triplicate. The purchaser gets one, you keep one and you mail one in to the State of Michigan - if the purchaser is in Michigan.
If the purchaser is outside of Michigan take the firearm to an FFL dealer with your green card. They will file the pistol as "theirs" and transfer it to the FFL dealer in the other state. He'll file the pistol as "his" until the person who is purchasing fills out thw 4473 making it his own. You keep your green card. I take a hole punch and punch a hole in it if I sell it.
If the purchaser is outside of Michigan take the firearm to an FFL dealer with your green card. They will file the pistol as "theirs" and transfer it to the FFL dealer in the other state. He'll file the pistol as "his" until the person who is purchasing fills out thw 4473 making it his own. You keep your green card. I take a hole punch and punch a hole in it if I sell it.
Ok, I have been trying to figure this out.
I got a purchase permit for a pistol that I want to buy from my co-worker. He lives in Indiana, I live in Michigan, But we both work in Indiana. I contacted my dealer telling him that I need to do the FFL transfer. He told me that I do not need to use an FFL dealer, since I am buying the handgun in person, all we have to do is fill out the 3 pieces of the purchase permit, and then just take the gun to the department to have it inspected, with the two stubs that I kept from the sale......
I have read federal and michigan gun codes yesterday and ended up under the impression that, what I was told by him in not legal? I just want to do this right and not cause any jail time..... Please advise?
I got a purchase permit for a pistol that I want to buy from my co-worker. He lives in Indiana, I live in Michigan, But we both work in Indiana. I contacted my dealer telling him that I need to do the FFL transfer. He told me that I do not need to use an FFL dealer, since I am buying the handgun in person, all we have to do is fill out the 3 pieces of the purchase permit, and then just take the gun to the department to have it inspected, with the two stubs that I kept from the sale......
I have read federal and michigan gun codes yesterday and ended up under the impression that, what I was told by him in not legal? I just want to do this right and not cause any jail time..... Please advise?
Better yet, simply call the Mich. state police in Lansing, as they set ALL the rules. They have always been very helpful, and when the person I was talking to didn't have the exact answer, they have always returned my calls quickly with the correct info.
A REALLY good source is -www.mcrgo.org They are a topnotch organization dedicated to helping gun owners.
A REALLY good source is -www.mcrgo.org They are a topnotch organization dedicated to helping gun owners.
I am...
...a recently retired judge in Michigan. The information presented in this thread on Michigan nuances is pretty sound. I just sent a handgun...as a gift...to my son-in-law in North Carolina. Shipped it FFL here to FFL there. No problems. The "safety inspection" has apparently been repealed but the repeal doesn't seem to take effect until later on in 2009...so I'd follow current (i.e. the soon to be repealed) law.
FYI, I have found the Michigan State Police government website to be quite accurate and informative on issues of hangun purchases, exchanges and uses. Review that and I suspect most of your questions will be answered.
FWIW...in Michigan, take the course and obtain a CPL card. It removes a lot of headaches. As I recall, it's an 8 hour course that pretty much follows NRA protocol for firearm use. We are now a "shall issue" state.
...a recently retired judge in Michigan. The information presented in this thread on Michigan nuances is pretty sound. I just sent a handgun...as a gift...to my son-in-law in North Carolina. Shipped it FFL here to FFL there. No problems. The "safety inspection" has apparently been repealed but the repeal doesn't seem to take effect until later on in 2009...so I'd follow current (i.e. the soon to be repealed) law.
FYI, I have found the Michigan State Police government website to be quite accurate and informative on issues of hangun purchases, exchanges and uses. Review that and I suspect most of your questions will be answered.
FWIW...in Michigan, take the course and obtain a CPL card. It removes a lot of headaches. As I recall, it's an 8 hour course that pretty much follows NRA protocol for firearm use. We are now a "shall issue" state.
freakshow10mm
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If you are using UPS or FedEx, you simply ship it to a dealer that will accept from an individual. If not you need to use an FFL. This requires a Dealer Purchase Permit, which essentially takes the gun out of your name and places it in the dealer's name. This is an old law that dates back to the 1920s. The bound book requirements of the feeral GCA of 1968 pretty much make this a redundancy but it is still the way it's done.
No, he told you misinformation. Handgun transfers between residents of different states need to have an FFL perform the transfer. Period. He needs to give or send the gun to your FFL in MI and they transfer it to you. Do not perform this without a FFL intermediary.
First gun to carry!
All, As a former police officer (9 years) we must think about the fact are we ready to use the gun before we carry it. I've lost many of friends in the line of duty and just want all of you to think before we talk about using or carrying a handgun. it's very hard attending the funeral of a friend when some punk decided it was ok to rake a life to see what it feels like to kill someone. Sorry I just want you all to think about it first.
All, As a former police officer (9 years) we must think about the fact are we ready to use the gun before we carry it. I've lost many of friends in the line of duty and just want all of you to think before we talk about using or carrying a handgun. it's very hard attending the funeral of a friend when some punk decided it was ok to rake a life to see what it feels like to kill someone. Sorry I just want you all to think about it first.
Stevie-Ray
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crimson
Oh, for a lot of years in Michigan, we thought of nothing else. Especially people like me that can't run from trouble, like the law used to want. Some of us felt we had targets painted on our backs while we pushed our loved ones in wheelchairs. As Michigan smarted up legislatively, we gleefully waited for our CPLs. Now we don't feel like victims-in-waiting anymore. And for the last 7 or 8 years, that's been a good feeling.
Oh, for a lot of years in Michigan, we thought of nothing else. Especially people like me that can't run from trouble, like the law used to want. Some of us felt we had targets painted on our backs while we pushed our loved ones in wheelchairs. As Michigan smarted up legislatively, we gleefully waited for our CPLs. Now we don't feel like victims-in-waiting anymore. And for the last 7 or 8 years, that's been a good feeling.
Haven't been around in awhile, but figured I'd chime in. I took my own advice and took the required course and received my CPL around 6 weeks ago 
. So from what I hear there will be NO safety inspection after the first of the year? I suppose I should put off my next purchase until then, huh?
. So from what I hear there will be NO safety inspection after the first of the year? I suppose I should put off my next purchase until then, huh?Stevie-Ray
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Not if you come across a great deal before then. I just bought a G29. The safety inspection is pretty painless, anyway.
Re:Crimson
Is there some kind of cogent thought in this post?
Are you suggesting that people don't think long enough before they decide to carry a weapon for self-defense? Would you prefer that they paralyze themselves with doubts about the consequences of taking responsibility for their own security? Should they question their decision to the point that they become a victim? Then others, like yourself, can attend their funeral, because some punk decided it was ok to take a life and the person whose life was taken had no defense because they listened to a bunch of morons who told them that they might not be able to handle the consequences of defending themselves.
Is that your point, cause it won't go very far on this board.
Is there some kind of cogent thought in this post?
Are you suggesting that people don't think long enough before they decide to carry a weapon for self-defense? Would you prefer that they paralyze themselves with doubts about the consequences of taking responsibility for their own security? Should they question their decision to the point that they become a victim? Then others, like yourself, can attend their funeral, because some punk decided it was ok to take a life and the person whose life was taken had no defense because they listened to a bunch of morons who told them that they might not be able to handle the consequences of defending themselves.
Is that your point, cause it won't go very far on this board.