TheKlawMan
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I understand that the problem with some Mossberg safeties is they are plastic and can crack on the inside where the fissure isn't even visible. Get a metal safety button.
First shotgun purchase opinions
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I have seen the aftermarket safeties for the 930 and they are larger and sturdier looking.
It's not a big deal it's not an expensive upgrade, I wouldn't let it deter me from buying the 930 SPX.
As far the breacher option for the HD SG- I think it's a great idea.
You never know when you might need it - you might be in a real hurry to get out of your house, like maybe you're on your way to a friend's football party and you're running late and might miss the kickoff...
Instead of stopping and unlocking your front door - you just put the breacher up againts the lock and BLAM... you're on your way and you've shaved at least 2 seconds off your travel time.
It's also useful if you are stuck with a family member who likes to hog the bathroom...
It's not a big deal it's not an expensive upgrade, I wouldn't let it deter me from buying the 930 SPX.
As far the breacher option for the HD SG- I think it's a great idea.
You never know when you might need it - you might be in a real hurry to get out of your house, like maybe you're on your way to a friend's football party and you're running late and might miss the kickoff...
Instead of stopping and unlocking your front door - you just put the breacher up againts the lock and BLAM... you're on your way and you've shaved at least 2 seconds off your travel time.
It's also useful if you are stuck with a family member who likes to hog the bathroom...
Hog;
I may be wrong but am certain the Hunter's Combo, my own first, was a 28" Mod and a 24" rifle-sight (smooth) slug barrel. The Security combo replaced the latter with the 18-1/2" "riot" tube. Bought the first of those off a rack to celebrate the Rodney King verdict when I couldn't find the 24".
As for the safety? Feels good!? The ONLY thing I URGE 500 buyers to do is replace that poly-resin safety switch with a metal one, properly. Doesn't even need to be a higher one. The plastic safety is the singular weak link in the entire gun as far as I am concerned. Um, savvy!?!?
JD;
The 930 SPX is not a 930! It is a dopey super-high-ghost-ring-sighted, too-low-stocked, gun that also has a developing reputation for being finicky and failures of various types, especially if it isn't COMPLETELY cleaned early and very often. I would certainly get a "tactical" one over the SPX (which I wanted, TRIED, to buy but just couldn't despite my regard for Mossbergs), and wasn't gonna mention the failures, but, well, it was time.
Get a pump -- you won't really need the pistol-grip-only I hope. It makes for poor gunnery.
I may be wrong but am certain the Hunter's Combo, my own first, was a 28" Mod and a 24" rifle-sight (smooth) slug barrel. The Security combo replaced the latter with the 18-1/2" "riot" tube. Bought the first of those off a rack to celebrate the Rodney King verdict when I couldn't find the 24".
As for the safety? Feels good!? The ONLY thing I URGE 500 buyers to do is replace that poly-resin safety switch with a metal one, properly. Doesn't even need to be a higher one. The plastic safety is the singular weak link in the entire gun as far as I am concerned. Um, savvy!?!?
JD;
The 930 SPX is not a 930! It is a dopey super-high-ghost-ring-sighted, too-low-stocked, gun that also has a developing reputation for being finicky and failures of various types, especially if it isn't COMPLETELY cleaned early and very often. I would certainly get a "tactical" one over the SPX (which I wanted, TRIED, to buy but just couldn't despite my regard for Mossbergs), and wasn't gonna mention the failures, but, well, it was time.
Get a pump -- you won't really need the pistol-grip-only I hope. It makes for poor gunnery.
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This could be very true... Back then "tactical assault" farkle laden guns were not in vogue... The marketing strategy used by Mossberg was with the catchy names...
In fact, I think my PGO 18 inch 20 was called a "camper combo" but nothing was "combo" only one barrel and only one PGO... no regular stock yet they opted to call it a "combo"...
Brent
about recoil
If you want to compare recoil, forget the gauge. Look at velocity and weight of the shot charge. A low recoil 12 ga. shell may have 7/8oz of shot, like a 20 ga. A heavy 20 ga. Load might be one ounce of shot like some 12 gauge loads. If both gauge shells have the same velocity and are fired from the same weight gun, then recoil will be the same.
Pistol grips are a waste of time and money. Unless you are going into combat, so are the other things. You don't need a breacher to blow a lock on the front door.
If you want to compare recoil, forget the gauge. Look at velocity and weight of the shot charge. A low recoil 12 ga. shell may have 7/8oz of shot, like a 20 ga. A heavy 20 ga. Load might be one ounce of shot like some 12 gauge loads. If both gauge shells have the same velocity and are fired from the same weight gun, then recoil will be the same.
Pistol grips are a waste of time and money. Unless you are going into combat, so are the other things. You don't need a breacher to blow a lock on the front door.
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Sgt.Fathead
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I have an old Mossberg Maverick 88 six shot with a four shot SpeedFeed stock on it and the heat shield over the barrel that I bought used from the Ocala Armory in FL years ago. It was a well worn police trade-in then. I added a side saddle but took it off, damn thing got in the way and confused the heck out of me. I prefer extra rounds on the stock or on me.
That gun has been to the range with me again and again and it always works, takes a bit of rough handling and abuse and works well. It was cheap, too!
I have lent the old thing to a friend with no HD gun, a single mom down in north Fort Worth and she handles it well, too. I now use a Mossberg 590A1 pistol grip model for HD here.
BUT! aside from that, I liked having my old double trigger SxS 12g Stoeger Coach Gun for HD. Simple, easy to use, short and maneuverable. I'd like to get a Double Defense with the much more HD-wise single trigger. Get a cheap Maverick and buy more ammo!
That gun has been to the range with me again and again and it always works, takes a bit of rough handling and abuse and works well. It was cheap, too!
I have lent the old thing to a friend with no HD gun, a single mom down in north Fort Worth and she handles it well, too. I now use a Mossberg 590A1 pistol grip model for HD here.
BUT! aside from that, I liked having my old double trigger SxS 12g Stoeger Coach Gun for HD. Simple, easy to use, short and maneuverable. I'd like to get a Double Defense with the much more HD-wise single trigger. Get a cheap Maverick and buy more ammo!
I love those breachers -- they are critically important for tactical entry roles. Everytime I have had to blow the knob or lock or both thru a door, or all the hinges off of one, I was just about to pull the trigger with the muzzle completely gas-sealed against the target and only remembered just in the nick of time to pull the gun back an inch. Whew! Those were close times.
Now, with a breacher barrel or screw in choke, I don't have to worry. My gun looks tacticool, warning evil-doers and making women swoon (that's what they do, right?) -- you can also use the pointier edges to massage your gums.
I love those breachers!
Hey Fathead;
Could you do pictures? I'm not as totally sure of the Maverick as you are but I don't think anyone could do better in principle than what you are talking about right there. You may be a former Marine, but today we promote you to the Rangers: lead the way!
Now, with a breacher barrel or screw in choke, I don't have to worry. My gun looks tacticool, warning evil-doers and making women swoon (that's what they do, right?) -- you can also use the pointier edges to massage your gums.
I love those breachers!
Hey Fathead;
Could you do pictures? I'm not as totally sure of the Maverick as you are but I don't think anyone could do better in principle than what you are talking about right there. You may be a former Marine, but today we promote you to the Rangers: lead the way!
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Stevie-Ray
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If you get the 930 in any flavor, that most likely won't be a problem. The action tames recoil to a pussycat in comparison to a pump-gun. Mine has been fired with mostly 2¾" 00 buck against t-shirts with no flinching, even after 50 plus rounds in a session.JDC24 said:
Hmmm....mine must have missed the memo that said it was supposed to be finicky. It has fired 6 types of ammo now, including #7½ target loads, all without one hiccup. It has proven itself to incredibly accurate and completely reliable, and the stock can be adjusted for rise and drop. Mine needed an adjustment and fits fine now. Don't know about you, but I clean all my guns used after a range session, especially the ones I use for defense. Don't really know if it's needed because It's never required it in the middle of a session, but that doesn't matter to me as it will be cleaned when I get home.Gehrhard said: