Cheapshooter
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If you already have a revolver, and have limited experience with semi-autos, a small lightweight 38spcl+P revolver would be a good choice.
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First Concealed Weapon
- Thread starter MoBSix
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I have a UCII and I love it; it's my "cold-weather" carry gun, in a kydex paddle holster ... HOWEVER ... I'm not sure I would recommend it for a first carry gun for anybody ... the Kimber is easy to conceal and extremely accurate, but it takes practice to deal with the safety -- and it is a bit heavier than some of the smaller guns available ... have her try a few guns out at a range where they rent guns ... she might find a smaller 9mm, like a Kahr, or a small revolver, might suit her better ... using a gun for self-defense means you have to be able to run it under extreme stress, and unless you've clicked that safety off hundreds of times (I do it a dozen times every time I slip it on before leaving the house, just to remind myself it's there, and I've been shooting for more than 20 years), the odds are you'll be tugging at the trigger while the bad guy hits you in the head and does whatever he plans to do ...
love the 1911 pistols. But they are a little heavy and can be difficult to dress around.
That depends upon the 1911 in question. The EMP in 9mm is smaller, THINNER, and weighs less than the Glock 23. The .40 EMP might be a bit heavier.
FoxtrotRomeo
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Kimber buddy. The Ultra Carry you like is based on mine the Ultra is nice trust me.
If she's digging the "pumpkin chuckin" .45 ACP like I do and likin the Kimbers then Kimber is for you.
As for mine.
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/jollyroger200/?action=view¤t=KimberEclipseProII.jpg
Mine is the 4 inch barrel. In an IWB holster? Gone... Some 8 round mags will fit a mm shy of flush to the end of the grip.
As for 9mm. Yeah you may want to consider something like an EMP. Concealment is that way, Thin is good.
As for weight, you have to stop and think. Do you notice weight on your centermass more? Or do you notice it with a locked out fully extended arm when it's in your hand more? I'm betting your answer is the the latter.
What does that have to do with anything? Simple, you're not gonna whip it out till you're scared half outta your mind. Till then, it's prolly gonna be on your centermass holstered up. And a person's legs is the strongest limbs on a person.
Something to consider.
If she's digging the "pumpkin chuckin" .45 ACP like I do and likin the Kimbers then Kimber is for you.
As for mine.
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/jollyroger200/?action=view¤t=KimberEclipseProII.jpg
Mine is the 4 inch barrel. In an IWB holster? Gone... Some 8 round mags will fit a mm shy of flush to the end of the grip.
As for 9mm. Yeah you may want to consider something like an EMP. Concealment is that way, Thin is good.
As for weight, you have to stop and think. Do you notice weight on your centermass more? Or do you notice it with a locked out fully extended arm when it's in your hand more? I'm betting your answer is the the latter.
What does that have to do with anything? Simple, you're not gonna whip it out till you're scared half outta your mind. Till then, it's prolly gonna be on your centermass holstered up. And a person's legs is the strongest limbs on a person.
Something to consider.
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I sometimes carry a Kimber Pro Carry II stainless, I've always been a huge fan of the 1911 style pistol. However I would only recommend carrying the 1911 style pistol if you are willing to put in the time learning all of the ins and the outs of the mechanicals on your 1911. My first carry weapon was a S&W M&P compact pistol, great carry option, with a simple point and shoot operation.
Personally for the wife, how often is your wife going to be willing to practice with and familiarize her self with that weapon. A good small frame revolver is a great start, very easy operation.
Personally for the wife, how often is your wife going to be willing to practice with and familiarize her self with that weapon. A good small frame revolver is a great start, very easy operation.
shootingblanks
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One of my college degrees was criminal justice and I took a class called "the history, use, and maintenance of the firearm". Learned all about SAO, DAO, DA/SA, rim fires, centerfire, clip magazines, double taps, center mass, shot placement in tear duct section of eye socket being softest part of skull structure, entry and exit wounds, low light shooting, drawing holstered weapon with weak arm under scenario of strong hand being injured etc.
I have shot MP5, M1 garand, M1 carbine, ar-15, ar-10, ak-47, berettas, glocks, hk pistols, springfield 1911s, xd 40, saiga 12gauge, revolvers, sigs, etc.
By no means am I an expert but I love to shoot at every chance I can get at the range. I enjoy shooting different guns and learning each one operates differently. Can never learn enough. I have not had to rent a gun yet but many ranges offer rentals but not all ranges allow you to fire all of the above guns.
I carry a SIg P220 and realize many variables can happen with a semi automatic pistol that can play a factor between life and death. I carry with one in the pipe using the decocker to bring the hammer down. I never carry with hammer pulled back and gun charged. I am not comfortable with that and I carry with what I'm comfortable with. Carrying a semi auto without a round in the chamber was never my preference. Takes added seconds to draw from holster rack the slide and point and shoot. Can have feed problem or misfire. Stress can induce panic when actualy encountered wit stressful situation which may impede ability to perform when needed. So I eliminate what variables which may play into account.
I think the revolver has proven itself time after time. Although has less round capacity, does someone need more than six rounds if a situation arises. Even with multiple perps one would hope he or she could eliminate the threat or evade the situation. Revolver is simple as point, pull trigger. After practicing at range one can become pretty proficient with discharging all his or her rounds from the cylinder of a revolvers, open the cylinder, push the ejector rod to extract spent shells,, reload with speed loader, and draw on target in fluid movement.
I have contemplated on getting a revolver to carry for CCW instead of my P220 or a G30.
You may be proficient with a .45 but the same might not apply to your wife. Shot placement and accountability for a spent round can haunt with a you . Once that round leaves the barrel ther is no turning back.
For home protection I am of the opinion that a pump shotgun is my number one go to gun. Everyone knows the distinct sound of a shell being racked and does wonders in close quarters.
Just food for thought. Tytped on cellphone and apologize for mistypes.
I have shot MP5, M1 garand, M1 carbine, ar-15, ar-10, ak-47, berettas, glocks, hk pistols, springfield 1911s, xd 40, saiga 12gauge, revolvers, sigs, etc.
By no means am I an expert but I love to shoot at every chance I can get at the range. I enjoy shooting different guns and learning each one operates differently. Can never learn enough. I have not had to rent a gun yet but many ranges offer rentals but not all ranges allow you to fire all of the above guns.
I carry a SIg P220 and realize many variables can happen with a semi automatic pistol that can play a factor between life and death. I carry with one in the pipe using the decocker to bring the hammer down. I never carry with hammer pulled back and gun charged. I am not comfortable with that and I carry with what I'm comfortable with. Carrying a semi auto without a round in the chamber was never my preference. Takes added seconds to draw from holster rack the slide and point and shoot. Can have feed problem or misfire. Stress can induce panic when actualy encountered wit stressful situation which may impede ability to perform when needed. So I eliminate what variables which may play into account.
I think the revolver has proven itself time after time. Although has less round capacity, does someone need more than six rounds if a situation arises. Even with multiple perps one would hope he or she could eliminate the threat or evade the situation. Revolver is simple as point, pull trigger. After practicing at range one can become pretty proficient with discharging all his or her rounds from the cylinder of a revolvers, open the cylinder, push the ejector rod to extract spent shells,, reload with speed loader, and draw on target in fluid movement.
I have contemplated on getting a revolver to carry for CCW instead of my P220 or a G30.
You may be proficient with a .45 but the same might not apply to your wife. Shot placement and accountability for a spent round can haunt with a you . Once that round leaves the barrel ther is no turning back.
For home protection I am of the opinion that a pump shotgun is my number one go to gun. Everyone knows the distinct sound of a shell being racked and does wonders in close quarters.
Just food for thought. Tytped on cellphone and apologize for mistypes.
FoxtrotRomeo
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For home protection I am of the opinion that a pump shotgun is my number one go to gun. Everyone knows the distinct sound of a shell being racked and does wonders in close quarters.
Just food for thought. Tytped on cellphone and apologize for mistypes.
For HD I have the 1911 by the bed. I am comfortable with Condition 1 though. The 1911 is there as a first line of defense for precision shooting to minimize collateral damage in my own house. Now if for some reason I can't stop the threat from there, the pistol can get me to to my 870. In my house the perp will be stopped by the 12gauge.
My line of thought is that the perp must be stopped as soon as possible and a pistol doesn't take up as much room as my shotgun. The shotgun is in the same room as the pistol, so I will get to the shotgun if I have to.
However. I pray that day will never come.
maybe it's just me....
..... but if I'm at the point that gunfire is necessary, "collateral damage" is the least of my worries. Precise aiming is great, as only hits count. ..... but if gunfire starts, I accept that it is going to get messy, and that is the least of my worries.
..... but if I'm at the point that gunfire is necessary, "collateral damage" is the least of my worries. Precise aiming is great, as only hits count. ..... but if gunfire starts, I accept that it is going to get messy, and that is the least of my worries.