Figured Out Where the Explosives Went

Your right FF Dubya should have been over there guarding the stuff with an m-16 himself!!!
I find it funny that ANYTHING that goes wrong is his fault, no matter what. The FACT is, nobody has proven anything, the NY times is not reliable, so BH is absolutely NOT 100% right.

BTW I think it is fair to assume BH is a Kerry supporter since he constantly lies about Bush (then leaves usually) and never mentions any of Kerry's treachery or lies.

This is rediculus, maybe FF and BH should listen to that press conference with the major that was in charge of destroying munitions over there.
 
FF & BH,

Why have YOU AVOIDED ANSWERING MY QUESTION?

Or is it that you HATE to admit Kerry is as big IF NOT BIGGER liar than you accuse current admin of being.

BH, if as you say, you REALLY HATE LIARS, then DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. It's all out there. all you have to do is look for it.

FF, you LOST. Get over it. That's WHY your side lost. Way to many lying liars telling lies. BTW, how do you think G. SOROS is feeling right about now?

Probably about the same as TERESA does. Slightly lighter in the bank account, eh?
 
YOU and FRED, OTOH, are 100% wrong, because you do nothing but throw out red herrings and straw men.
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If asking for one shred of CREDIBLE evidence vs. using illogic to defend forgery and calling unidentified people "identified" is your idea of strawmen and red herrings, then you First (I'd put Freedom here but it would be too hard to type through the laughter) need more nose time in a dictionary than our good friend BH.
 
I doubt you could even get hexamine to burn decently, let alone explode.
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Hexamine is the substance used in "heat tabs" to heat old GI c-rations. Also reacted with several chemicals to form the explosives. Maybe the looters wanted to cook dinner.
 
I just *know* that y'all can discuss things like this in a more civilized manner. Please, let's keep this thread on the high road and keep it open. Okay?

-Dave
 
Still NO ANSWER!

FF & BH,

STILL NO ANSWER TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION. Why is that? You hurl invectives and faux charges around. WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THE TRUTH, you just ignore it?
 
FF & BH,

STILL NO ANSWER TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION. Why is that? You hurl invectives and faux charges around. WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THE TRUTH, you just ignore it?
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Carefull now, you're literally sticking your arm into an intellectual wood chipper there. :D
 
OK, here is the answer to your "question" (?)

That's a tuff one pardner. Kerry has YET TO RELEASE the last 100 pages of his military record. IF he had done so, he would have had to reveal that he DID NOT RECIEVE his Honorable Discharge until 1978, after President Carter pardoned all Draft dodgers and 'those who received LESS than honorable discharges'.

Kerry applied for and was granted an HONORABLE DISCHARGE after his record was reviewed by a military panel in 1978. And that COMES DIRECTLY from the Kerry website.

The Navy does NOT review a persons record to recommend an Honorable Discharge IF said person ALREADY HAD an honorable discharge. Kerry left the service of the NAVY under less than honorable discharge conditions.

SO, does that mean you HATE KERRY because HE LIED ABOUT HIS MILITARY RECORD? AT least the part about how he got out of VI ET NAM? Just curious.
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I'll assume this is the "question":

"SO, does that mean you HATE KERRY because HE LIED ABOUT HIS MILITARY RECORD?"

NO, because I don't know that he did and you have not proved it. Further, if he lied, he did not hire a group of lying thugs to spread lies about Bush in the way Karl Rove did with the Swiftvets. Rove did that with malice and full knowledge of the truth, and he did it because the idea of Bush facing off against an actual war hero terrified him. If you doubt it, just re-wind the clock to 2000 and you will see the same smear campaign used on Senator McCain when he ran against Bush.

The point is, it is YOU who ducked the point I made: the Swiftvets are liars (at least, I know for a fact O'dell is). Further, he not only slung crap over Kerry when he lied but also a green beret named Rassman who gave the same story as Kerry about the incident. When O'dell said Kerry took no fire, he called rassman a liar. You don't seem to have a problem with that, so be it.

STILL NO ANSWER TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION. Why is that? You hurl invectives and faux charges around. WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THE TRUTH, you just ignore it?
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This may come as a shock, but those of us with real lives don't sit by the computer waiting for posts.

As to faux charges:

Bounty...

I have neither lied about you nor attacked you personally.
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Sorry, you lose. You directed a lying post at me by name:

"In case you didn't get the memo, your boy lost, your party is in shambles and your political perspective has been repudiated."


You claimed I was Kerry supporter and I called you on it. I called you a liar flat out, and all you have to do is find a post where I said I thought Kerry would be a good president or that people should vote for him. Problem is, I never did, and what you posted was a lie. Bottom line, you're smoked on that one. And for the record, just because somebody criticizes the admin's conduct does not make them a Kerry lover: it just means they have a few living brain cells.

Still waiting for you to put up all those posts where I was supporting Kerry for president.
 
Since You are throwing around challenges:

I've got one:

How about a reply that actually addresses the topic of the thread:

That the admin knew for a good time what happened to the explosives and arranged a phoney press conference all the while knowing the stuff was looted (when, how and why).

Care to dispute the facts? Are the Army reservists and National Guard lying about that?


Or, on your new diversionary front: care to state your position? Is the Green Beret Rassman a lyer or psycho who falsely kept ducking into a river to get away from imaginary enemy fire? Is he another "closet Kerry supporter" like you painted anybody who doesn't sing the Bush theme along with you?

I'd like to know, do you believe he was lying as well? Because , for O'Dell NOT to be a liar, you have to believe Rassman is. I don't.
 
Are the Army reservists and National Guard lying about that?
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Impossible to know. They remain UNIDENTIFIED!!! Even if we made the stipulation that they exist at all, we have no way to know who "they" are. What we do know is that the reporting parties - the media - are notorious for making up stories from whole cloth. They don't even bother to apologize for it. Like all liberals they put the blame for their fabrications onto others.

That's the whole point - such as it is - BountyHunter. You call people who identify themselves - like the SwiftVets, George W. Bush (who signed form 180 thereby releasing ALL of his military records to public view), and even the soldiers in the press conference you are railing about, liars. Each and every one of them show up, identify themselves, and make their records available for public view.

On the other side (your side of the argument) people go unidentified, turn up with pathetically bad forgeries, refuse to release their records (John Kerry utterly refuses to release his Naval Record), claim to be in countries they were never in, serving under a President who wasn't President at the time, and testify that they "saw the whole thing" when IN THE SAME BREATH they say they were at the bottom of a river. These people you say are telling the Gospel truth. It would be funny if it were not so sad.

So in the end there will be those like First Fr...[I'm laughing too hard to fill in the rest] who will take the word of unidentified, perhaps non-existent, people, and those of us who will take the word of those that have the guts to state their name, rank, and serial number for the record, and testify. Quite simple really. :rolleyes:
 
I see you choose to ignore the fact that there is an Army major with firsthand experience who is calling BS basically, he has released his name too, no reason to hide.

BTW where's your proof the Bush admin paid the swiftboat vets? Where's the proof this was a phoney press conference? ("I heard it on the DU doesn't count")

an actual war hero
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Hee hee hee! that's a good one! Here is what we know for a fact: He was there 4 months, he was not hospitalized for any of his purple hearts (or 2 out of 3? can't remember), he was the only swiftboat commander to recieve 3 purple hearts. A "real" hero would not have accepted a purple heart for a damn scratch. A real hero would have stayed with his comrades.
 
BH,
Kerry WAS your boy.
You have such a venomous, virulent and irrational hatred for George Bush and his administration that you would post any falsehood, support any lie and further any deception to discredit him. The only real challenger to Bush for the presidency was Kerry. He was the only candidate who had ANY chance of keeping the man that you so pathalogically dispise from being re-elected. Therefore, Kerry was your boy. I didn't say that you voted for him, campaigned for him, encouraged others to support him or wanted to swap spit with him.

But you defended him against overwhelming facts from the Swift Boat vets, you parroted his line during the falsified memo debacle, you mouthed his position about the alleged missing explosives and you damned sure wanted him to beat Bush 'cause he was the only one who had a chance...or so you thought. Hell, you just called him a war hero. Yessir, Kerry was your boy, in spades. You just don't have the stones to admit it 'cause he got his narrow ass dusted. Put that in your wood chipper.

Like I asked previously...give it a rest.
 
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