Feral dog "hunting" questions

Daryl A lease we hunted in al was also looked over bio the fish and game bio to get your doe tags and he was the one that confermed the coy-dogs in that area and to shoot all we could. Those did act much more like coyotes in there travel but i never saw many coyotes trqvel in the day light hours in a pack, Them sucker travels day and night in a loose pack just don't sound on each other as much as regular coy pack does at night. We were hunting between clayton and eufalia al.
Suwanee Tim, When i lived in sw fl i had a nieghbor that had 3 dogs that ran loose 2 sheps and i mutt, and they could be a pain. We had laws that you had to keep your dog leashed if not hunting . One night or screen porch cats came running in, my wife went to see what was up and opened the door to those 3 ****** off dogs. I got a 357 with rat shoot and fire all 6 rounds at them as they hauled butt. Then called the owner,, Reminded him of our leash law and told him if his dogs came back on my property and growled at anyone i would kill themand put them on his door step. Then asked if he had a problem with that and he said no. Turns out he was the ass. district attorney jerry brock..His brother was the DA. Glad i never went to court for anything. He did get rid of his dogs instead of makeing a run or fence in his yard. Guy had horses and money. O well.
 
A couple of succinct thoughts, the best and easiest way to do this is trap them and whack them with a 22. Dump the carcass on the side of the road, looks like road kill. Keep quiet.
 
Hardluk1

Bear in mind that I didn't say it CAN'T happen; only that in my experience, it's VERY unlikely.

A lot of people say "coy-dog", and later find out it's just a wild mutt.

I've seen people claim lion attacks on their horse, when the legs were chewed up and the sign showed it to be dogs. Lions do not attack the legs of it's prey.

I've seen a lot of people claim damage done by coyotes, when in reality it was dogs.

Not that coyotes, mt lions and such don't cause problems once in a while, but many folks would rather talk about "coy-dogs" or "mt lions" than "someone's mutt". People sensationalize things, and many times they're wrong. Some biologists are just as guilty of this at times, from what I've seen.

If a biologist said "coy-dog", I'd be tempted to ask to see blood sample verification. It's certainly possible, but I know an awful lot about coyotes, and I strongly suspect it's not as common as many would like to believe.

Again, yes, it's biologically possible, and I'm sure it can happen, but out of the many, many coyotes I've seen up close and personal, I've never seen it.

If it were common at all, we'd have lost the coyote as a species many years ago. The blood lines would be so contaminated with mutt blood that the coyote would no longer exist in it's native form. But the coyote still exists, and is very much surviving in a world that's getting tougher all the time.

Daryl
 
Suwanee, You are dead wrong about me.
I stated it is against florida law to shoot a dog not attacking or posing an immediate threat of attack. I also mentioned that the 12 gauge rat trap is out there. I didn't suggest folks make one nor did I suggest instruction on how to do so. I did also mention the bacon grease on a poly sponge. I did not say I was one who feels you should leave feral dogs alone. I simply stated that random hunting of domestic dogs is not legal here.

You are also dead wrong about my dogs roaming the neighborhood. One of highly regarded TFL members who is a regular reader of this section may pipe up if he wishes that I do have some house dogs that go outdoors off lead but are hardly roaming the neighborhood which is no less than 5 acre wooded places. I also maintain many dogs in my "dog yard" of 10-15 foot chains.

If a stray so much as shows me his teeth he is skating on the thinnest of ice....
If he breeds to my gyps, I will let the owner of the male know I expect them to buy all the feed. If they refuse I give them a knuckle samich.
So you may choose to stand down before you make too many claims about who you know nothing about!
Brent
 
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Thanks for the link... I now know that should anything ever happen here in WA, I am free and clear to take care of my problem. I would probably use a shotgun, since I live in the burbs.
 
Had a Cur digging up my yard, going after my Dachsunds and chasing me on my lawn mower. Neighbor thought it was funny. Caught up with her in a remote area and put the pipe to her. If a dog is collared with ID, I hold, if not.........
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Okay now I'm pretty sure doing away with neighbors is frowned upon by most states.....sadly :D
 
The big problem any more is that people dont know how to keep their mouth shut. Shoot, shovel, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. End of problem.
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+1 to this. I'm not a hunter and I don't usually go around killing animals. However on occasion I have "taken care of" some pests within populated areas. ;) ;)

Just be smart about it, if your in town consider using shorts or subsonic 22s or air rifle. Don't be aiming at your pests with the neighbors kids playing in the background. :eek:

Hell, I have an aunt who was damn near anti gun until she had some coons in her decorative pond. She still has a air rifle of mine, now that I think about it.

Good luck.
 
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I know it is a crazy thought, but maybe dog food.....
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That's how I do it. Put a can of Alpo or something on a paper plate and go sit behind my AR-15. 55gr. JHPs kill dogs dead.

I will say that I don't put the bait out till I know the dog I want to kill is near my house. I don't go out of my way to get 'em. The dog food just makes them stand still long enough to get a clean shot.
 
People will drive right past an animal shelter/dog pound to throw away the unwanted bow-wow. That generally leads to a dead dog, whether by starvation or a bullet.
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Same thing happens in this part of OK. Lots of dogs get turned loose here to hassle livestock, pets and game. All but the big mean ones soon become coyote food. The big ones get shot pretty quick.
 
I'm not making excuses for dogs running loose, but some good pets can become vicious when running with other dogs. Not disimilar with what happens when a group of teens get together and get destructive even though, as individuals, they seem like good kids.

Chances are that each dog is someone's pet and "such a good dog" when at home curled up on the couch.

Not saying that true feral dogs in packs don't exist, or that delinquent pets can't be just as destructive.
 
Daryl at this point i don't give a damnd what you believe. Mutt, coyote or mix. I will beleive a state pay'd bio over your intuition. I am also the only person i know that has killed coyotes, at least they looked like the real thing, with a bow on several hunting trips in georgia for deer. But maybe a better get tested results. jeeesss I should have took pictures.
 
I used to hunt Feral dogs in the Army. They are fairly easy to find, in that, they roam on the roads and trails (path of least resistance). A good 223 is plenty, I use a 55 Nosler BT on anything up the big deer we have here.
 
Hardpuk,

Believe whatever the flip you want; it's no skin off my back.

You're as entitled to repeat foolish BS as the next fella is.

You want to make your point? Show me a picture of a coy-dog from the wild. Better yet, maybe a picture of a pack of them? I'm rather curious as to what one looks like. Dogs and coyotes are everywhere these days, so it's not like I'm asking for a picture of bigfoot. If coyotes breed with dogs, it shouldn't be too hard to find several pictures, right? Of course, proof that it has coyote blood in it would strengthen your argument.

I guarantee I've shot more with a rifle than you have with a bow...or anything else in georgia.

Seriously, I've never even seen a picture of one that could be proven to be a coy-dog. Hunters kill coyotes and post the pictures on the 'net pretty frequently. Why can't I find a good picture of a proven coy-dog?

Daryl
 
Feral dogs can be a serious problem. I was in the Army back in the 60s and some bases had real problems with the "dogs left behind" by servicemen being sent overseas. Packs of ferals would raid trash barrels in housing areas and attack pets left outdoors. It got to the point where MP patrols were issued shotguns to take care of the problem. The dead ferals were taken to the base Vet for examination and it was not uncommon to find some of them were rabid. The City of Hartford Ct. had the same problem with feral dogs some 20 years back and animal control trapped and "disposed" of them.
A pack of hungry feral dogs is nothing to be taken lightly, they are very dangerous.
 
Knock off the personal stuff. I find it to be underwhelming.

The only coy-dogs of which I know first-hand had coyote sires. Momma was a house dog. The pups were locally in demand as yard-guards. But this was just two litters, and maybe 20 years back.

What we've found, these last 30 or so years, is that occasionally a group of three or four coyotes will come past a house where there is a yard dog. If the yard dog is lured out by the smell of a bitch in heat, shame on him; it's a one-time event. I doubt that anybody knows whether this is deliberate or "just happens", but it's been written about for over a hundred years.
 
Hougars

Coy-dogs are not a problem here, we have to worry about Hougars. They are a cross between house cats and wild cougars, hence the name, Hougars. Fortunately our Badgers haven't taken to fornicating with any of our domestic animals yet! Could you imagine what a Bamster would look like!!!:eek:
 
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