WillBrayjr
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Everyone breaks a law at some point in their life wether it's intentional or unintentional.
felony conviction?
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katzbalger
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Come one i am calling his bluff
infact if he is 5o i would recommend him to let loose before it is over
Everybody have lied ,cheated or stolen ...it is human
people lie all the time
it is not the lie it is the intention behind it
the world is not black or white there are no absolute liers or any absolute truth speakers
most people are nice Xavierbreath to i am sure
infact if he is 5o i would recommend him to let loose before it is over
Everybody have lied ,cheated or stolen ...it is human
people lie all the time
it is not the lie it is the intention behind it
the world is not black or white there are no absolute liers or any absolute truth speakers
most people are nice Xavierbreath to i am sure
felony
most states define a felony as any offense that carries more than a year in jail or which carries any possibility of imprisonment in the state prison (as opposed to a city or county jail). Some felonies may surprise you..obviously some are serious stuff...but others may strike you as a little heavy handed...
in my home state for example a $50.00 bad check used to be a 10 year felony and chasing someone around with an axe (assault with a deadly weapon) carried 5 years....go figure. That has since been remedied by the legistlature here but this is only one example of how a felony can be not so big a criminal deal...but the law on firearms makes no distinction in nature of the felony...violent, non-violent, major or minor... a felony is a felony in the statute although in the eyes of men they may be distinguishable. For those of you concerned about a speeding ticket ..relax..it's not a felony (yet).
most states define a felony as any offense that carries more than a year in jail or which carries any possibility of imprisonment in the state prison (as opposed to a city or county jail). Some felonies may surprise you..obviously some are serious stuff...but others may strike you as a little heavy handed...
in my home state for example a $50.00 bad check used to be a 10 year felony and chasing someone around with an axe (assault with a deadly weapon) carried 5 years....go figure. That has since been remedied by the legistlature here but this is only one example of how a felony can be not so big a criminal deal...but the law on firearms makes no distinction in nature of the felony...violent, non-violent, major or minor... a felony is a felony in the statute although in the eyes of men they may be distinguishable. For those of you concerned about a speeding ticket ..relax..it's not a felony (yet).
XavierBreath
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katzbalger,
Perhaps I should have said commited a felony instead of breaking the law.
It's true, that it is difficult to live any length of time and commit no legal transgression in a modern society. However, people do not often commit felonies without realizing what they are doing, or at least making a bad choice somewhere along the line.
FWIW, I do try to obey the speed limit, and my job entails a lot of traveling. I am careful who I associate with. When I travel in other countries, I make sure I know the law there and live accordingly. There may have been times that I made a turn without signaling. So, you win your argument. You may believe that it is impossible for a person to avoid commiting a felony. I humbly disagree. I believe a person is responsible for his actions and should be held accountable for them.
FWIW, lying is not in and of itself a crime. I don't claim to be an angel, but I refuse to make excuses for someone who cannot seem to prevent himself from commiting a felony.
oh, I forgot a smilie for you. :barf:
Perhaps I should have said commited a felony instead of breaking the law.
It's true, that it is difficult to live any length of time and commit no legal transgression in a modern society. However, people do not often commit felonies without realizing what they are doing, or at least making a bad choice somewhere along the line.
FWIW, I do try to obey the speed limit, and my job entails a lot of traveling. I am careful who I associate with. When I travel in other countries, I make sure I know the law there and live accordingly. There may have been times that I made a turn without signaling. So, you win your argument. You may believe that it is impossible for a person to avoid commiting a felony. I humbly disagree. I believe a person is responsible for his actions and should be held accountable for them.
FWIW, lying is not in and of itself a crime. I don't claim to be an angel, but I refuse to make excuses for someone who cannot seem to prevent himself from commiting a felony.
oh, I forgot a smilie for you. :barf:
novus collectus
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Xavier breath,
Ever put oil or hazmat in the sewer drain or leave rat poison out where a kid could have picked it up and eaten it? Ever been in the same car as someone who was carrying drugs that you didn't know about? Can't control everything and know every law and some laws go too far. No matter how clean you have lived your life I would bet my savings that in fifty years you broke many laws that you didn't know you were even breaking them. It takes one wrong accusation, one guilt by association (both happened to me), one technicality in the law (forgot to close the snap on the holster when transporting making it an illegal concealed wapon), one vindictive sherrif willing to lie for you to be thought of as a Criminal for the rest of your life. If any of this happened to you when you were the age when we were all young and dumb (lets say the age of 18) then you would still be thought of as a criminal fifty years later no matter how you lived your life since. Sorry to flame but this hits home.
Ever put oil or hazmat in the sewer drain or leave rat poison out where a kid could have picked it up and eaten it? Ever been in the same car as someone who was carrying drugs that you didn't know about? Can't control everything and know every law and some laws go too far. No matter how clean you have lived your life I would bet my savings that in fifty years you broke many laws that you didn't know you were even breaking them. It takes one wrong accusation, one guilt by association (both happened to me), one technicality in the law (forgot to close the snap on the holster when transporting making it an illegal concealed wapon), one vindictive sherrif willing to lie for you to be thought of as a Criminal for the rest of your life. If any of this happened to you when you were the age when we were all young and dumb (lets say the age of 18) then you would still be thought of as a criminal fifty years later no matter how you lived your life since. Sorry to flame but this hits home.
katzbalger
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What he said
Hi All-
Found this little explanation about a Certificate of Rehabilitation & Pardon as it relates to an ex-felon regaining his or her rights to handle or be in the vicinity of legal firearms.
This is interesting because I clearly remember the story (reprised by jimpeel) in the Liddy Letter on how G. Gordon Liddy was not permitted to own firearms, but that Mrs. Liddy legally did...and occasionally stored them on his side of the bed!
What is a law-abiding person supposed to do if a friend or relative comes to visit and they are a non-violent ex-convict? Even better, what if it is a surprise visit? How would a parole officer even determine if a violation took place as with that police officer who married the felon?
~ Blue Jays ~
Found this little explanation about a Certificate of Rehabilitation & Pardon as it relates to an ex-felon regaining his or her rights to handle or be in the vicinity of legal firearms.
This is interesting because I clearly remember the story (reprised by jimpeel) in the Liddy Letter on how G. Gordon Liddy was not permitted to own firearms, but that Mrs. Liddy legally did...and occasionally stored them on his side of the bed!
What is a law-abiding person supposed to do if a friend or relative comes to visit and they are a non-violent ex-convict? Even better, what if it is a surprise visit? How would a parole officer even determine if a violation took place as with that police officer who married the felon?
~ Blue Jays ~
perception
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Yeah, I have to agree that some felonies are a little heavy handed. About a year ago I went and hung out with a few guys from work. I drove us all around as I had the only car with enough space. I had no reason to doubt their intrgrity, as at work things are always cool. I found out sometime later that one of the people was carrying drugs with him. Even with no reason to suspect this, if I had been pulled over, I would have been in serious trouble. And knowing what I have since learned, I also firmly believe he would have told anyone that the drugs belonged to me. Watch yourselves, It could happen to you.
novus collectus
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Not sure if it is the same a "posses". If it was drugs it would though. The felons usually (or always, not sure) not allowed to even be in the presense of firearms as I understand it. Vests may not be the same.
katzbalger
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Why is bodyarmor a violation ? 
that is all wrong
bodyarmor for everyone
that is all wrong
bodyarmor for everyone
novus collectus
Moderator
My sister's a cop in one of our "drug towns". She said (in her experience, not mine) that only people that wear body armor that she has come accross are drug dealers that are expecting a drive by or are about to go on a drive by. Legislature in my state agreed and made all convicted drug dealers get permission or a permit before purchasing and possessing body armor. They left the door open to drug dealers that still needed to protect themselves from assasination but they just wanted to know what they were up to.
Would you let a felon convicted of armed bank robbery while wearing a vest buy another one later in life?
Would you let a felon convicted of armed bank robbery while wearing a vest buy another one later in life?
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katzbalger
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Yes i would...
I know it to be a problem in airports too(carryon bag with a bodyarmor NOGO)
I just fail to see how a bodyarmor can be dangerous to anyone
How is this controled do you need a " license" to purchase bodyarmor
I know it to be a problem in airports too(carryon bag with a bodyarmor NOGO)
I just fail to see how a bodyarmor can be dangerous to anyone
How is this controled do you need a " license" to purchase bodyarmor
novus collectus
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Well...maybe I would too. After all they let drunk drivers drink again after they have fufilled their probation (or parole if they killed someone). Once he's (the bank robber) paid his dues to society he has a right to protect his life like we do too, I guess.
Within reason, which is seldom, there should be some prohibitions against violent felons having the same access to firearms. I don't believe there should be any regulations as to body armor. I believe that people screw up in their lives. I don't believe they should be allowed to forever be stripped of their right to defend themselves with firearms. I personally have never known or met anyone who has not committed some type of violaton of the law to a degree that would, were it not for sheer luck or by professional influence, or just plain not caught, prohibit them from owning/using firearms. I think such claims are more claims towards their complete detachment from reality in thier thinking and actual life experience. What good is it to live 50 years and not ever actually experienced life as, say, 75% of people actually live it? Might as well say you've had blinders on all your life and are proud of it. I don't condone wrongs...but I don't live in paradise, or pretend that I do.