I thought I would reply back and give an update. thanks to all for providing very good info on options. A week ago one of he guys at work heard of a sale on the local radio at a local LGS who had a Delton 316L (in 556) and a Dickinson 12ga pump (18.5in barrel) for $539...for both, so I went over there and checked them out. The shotgun is nice, the AR was basic but decent, kind of a crappy trigger, but I bought the deal. The guy at the counter said they had sold about 250 pairs in the 5 days the sale was going on. I took them home and cleaned them up, which by itself helped the AR trigger some, but it needs to be shot, and I have not been able to yet. At any rate, I will report back, maybe after this weekend if everything lines up.