Feinstein uses Navy Yard shooting to call for more gun control.

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tyme

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/16/navy-yard-shooting-revives-gun-control-fight/

Sen. Dianne Feinstein [cited the] “the litany of massacres” [recently, asking] “When will enough be enough?”

Dr. Orlowski [who treated some of the victims]: “But there’s something wrong here when we have these multiple shootings. … There is something wrong, and the only thing that I can say is we have to work together to get rid of it. I would like you to put my trauma center out of business...”
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Well, Madame Feinstein, enough is enough, but you should stop fetishising gun control and legislative action as the solution, and start encouraging people to examine mass shootings as a sociological phenomenon, because that's where the problem and solution lie.
 
As per usual, not a word about the ongoing slaughter in our inner cities. Every four days the same number of deaths from the Newtown tragedy occurs in our inner cities in gang and drug related violence.

This fact highlights how hypocritical, opportunistic and disingenuous our opponents are in this fight. If the goal were really increasing public safety and reducing the number of deaths from firearms, then all the efforts and rhetoric would be focused on this ongoing urban violence where 70 percent of homicides actually occur.
 
But Senator Feinstein can't do that. She loves the war on drugs!
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/drug-caucus

Her entire statement on the Navy Yard shooting:
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2013/9/feinstein-statement-on-navy-yard-shooting

“I mourn those killed today at the Navy Yard in Washington and send my thoughts and prayers to those families grieving the loss of loved ones.

“There are reports the killer was armed with an AR-15, a shotgun and a semiautomatic pistol when he stormed an American military installation in the nation’s capital and took at least 12 innocent lives.

“This is one more event to add to the litany of massacres that occur when a deranged person or grievance killer is able to obtain multiple weapons—including a military-style assault rifle—and kill many people in a short amount of time.

“When will enough be enough?

“Congress must stop shirking its responsibility and resume a thoughtful debate on gun violence in this country. We must do more to stop this endless loss of life.”
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Congress has had the debate. I don't know where Senator Feinstein was last winter. Why is it more important to regulate inanimate objects than to tackle the difficult but critical issue of how to prevent cases of mass homicidal ideation?
 
I read this on another forum, but I have not been able to confirm. Anyone else read this and is it true. If it is the word needs to get out before it gets Buried.

He dropped the first armed guard he encountered, and then took that guard's automatic pistol, along with an AR-15 that was kept nearby for use by the guard; it was with these captured weapons that he then undertook his shooting spree.
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Captured Weapons? That's not a "Gun Control" issue, that's a policy, training issue.
 
CNN is reporting that it is believed that he brought only the shotgun and then captured two handguns from security personnel. They say no AR was used at all. Of course we are still in the fog and in the coming days things will come more completely into focus.
 
Stop the insanity! Insane is the idea that American soldiers cannot be trusted to carry weapons on US military base. When i was a kid I thought that a military based would be the safest place in the world because of all those armed soldiers. I am saddened to learn that a military base is just another school zone.
 
Multiple sources now claim Alexis only had a shotgun, and the other weapons were taken from Navy Yard security.

Investigators should be able to confirm or deny virtually immediately, since security weapons serial numbers will be on file.

Reports also indicate the shooter was receiving VA treatment for a sleep disorder, and for hearing voices.

The shooter had two prior firearms incidents, but charges were not filed in either case.

The shooter had either been involuntarily separated, or refused reenlistment by the Navy, for disciplinary problems - yet despite all this he retained a security clearance...

There are a lot of issues that should have been addressed, but none pertained to stricter gun control.

PS. The shooter was another example of a disturbed person who was allegedly into violent video games.

PPS. No mention by the gun control crowd in the government about removal of the prohibition on sales of weapons to terrorism sponsors the day before the shooting (so they can send arms to the Syrian opposition ). Once again, gun control distracts from political maneuvers.
 
Another instance of someone who has a mental disorder going berserk. They claim that he has reportedly experienced audio hallucinations. Whether or not these were "command" audio hallucinations remains to be seen.
 
Another aggravating thing: Press keeps referring to the shooter as a "decorated veteran, with two medals."

The guy had the Global War on Terrorism and the National Defense Service Medals - both of which are awarded simply for being a service member during specified periods of time. These are not individual heroism or achievement medals.

Same reporters refer to an AR-15 as "high powered."

Go figure.
 
What was their saying again? Never miss an opportunity to push the anti-gun agenda, they have only a couple weeks or months before emotions cool down?

Heh, nothing ever gets past Ms. Feinstein now does it? How's those blood red pumps work out for you ma'am?

Sarcasm/cynacism aside, this does not surprise me in the slightest. The women is so out of touch with society it boggles my mind as to how she keeps getting voted back into office.

I'm waiting until more information comes out, I suspect that the list of used weaponry will shift and change as the investigation goes on.
 
No, I am keenly aware of it.

My point is that as veterans go, this one was neither particularly skilled in combat (aviation electricians mate third class, I believe, on active reserve status for a while with a logistics squadron), nor noteworthy for achievement (forced out as an E-4, with no individual achievement awards listed).
 
On another "poor reporting" note, the press keeps referring to Alexis as being from Fort Worth, apparently trying to link him with Texas and the state's pro-gun attitude.

Alexis was assigned to VR-46 at JRB Fort Worth for a few years, but he was from Queens, NY.
 
TimSR, I believe Bill Clinton signed an EO in 1993, severely restricting carriage of and access to firearms on US bases.
 
The guy had nothing higher than the NDSM and he is decorated? Than what am I? The next version of Sgt. York? What a joke.

Geez, that bar is getting pushed as low as what constitutes a high powered rifle.

With the exception of Peirs Morgan, I haven't seen much of the gun control schill yet.

Even though they had the Chief Medical Officer of a DC hopsital talk about how much gun shot wound experience her hospital staff had, they really couldn't press for tougher gun laws, I reckon on account of DC myriad of laws already on the book.

I don't understand how I guy with a record like that could maintain a clearance or get hired on as a contractor.

Lot's of idiot ball in play on this one.
 
The facts are not fully known yet, but Feinstein's statement and gun control agenda are, so can we stick with that, and with solid and confirmed facts that directly relate to Feinstein's concept that gun control would have prevented this? Otherwise I think another mod is going to go postal on this thread.
 
Mack, Obama has alluded to gun control; Jay Carney has specifically mentioned it. Feinstein has pounced; so has the director of MAIG; so has Piers Morgan.

CNN just ran a piece on how it seems an AR15 was not used - but which then went on a journalistic rant about cases where AR15s were used.

Meanwhile, I suspect Alexis was allowed an honorable discharge, and retained his clearance, because administrative separations and denied reenlistments require much less documentation, justification, time, hassle, and headache than do more punitive actions.
 
tyme, misrepresentation of the shooter has to do with Feinstein's pattern.

Mental health considerations, enforcement of existing laws, and the means by which weapons are procured - and their misrepresentation - are also classic Feinstein.
 
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