Favorite gun for coyote, what do you bring

I carry a Ruger 22.250 like this...

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My upclose and personal gun looks like 'dis...

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I personally think the 204 is too light for coyotes. I own one and have shot some coyotes with it. I have also chased several cripples with it. That just doesn't happen much with a 22 250.
 
I personally think the 204 is too light for coyotes. I own one and have shot some coyotes with it. I have also chased several cripples with it. That just doesn't happen much with a 22 250.
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Read my posts above.

I use a .17 Rem with no problems, but I'm picky about where I hit 'em these days.

Daryl
 
Turning green...

I bring my Ar 15 . Id take a yote out to 400 yards with it. Id call it as accurate as any bolt gun, and my bolt cycles by itself. If you tried out one of the new varminter type ARS, you would probably leave your bolt gun at home for the foreseeable future. If yo like, you could even get a 204 ruger upper for your Ar.
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You guys have no idea how good you have it down there... It is so much pain in the arse to get an AR up here and even then you can only legally use it at a registered gun range and the only time you are allowed to have it with you is transporting it back and forth to that gun range. While not in use they have to have a trigger lock and be in a locked case... What a bunch of total BS :barf:.
 
I've used the .223 and the .243, mostly. One fella down in south Georgia swears by his .204 on coyotes. And, of course, the .22-250 and the Swift are traditional coyote cartridges.
 
There's ALOT of opinions about the 204 and coyotes. I personally think they have thier uses within a hundred yards with the right bullet. the 32 gr VMax is too light IMO. The only bullet that seems to work more often then not. Is the 40 gr Berger. They DO have their limitations. Sometimes things go wrong and you don't put it exactly where you need it. For instance... Same goes for a 17 hmr and a head shot. You can ding 'em in the head and stone them. But anywhere else and you got a tracking job. But on an "OK?" or badly hit coyote with a .204... You aren't going to get him. With a 22-250 takes most of that away.
 
Jseime, we dont have it really "all that good" here. You have just had your rights taken away from you. You have a beautiful country up there. I would not live there in a million years with people like that controling everything you do. I heard some stupid rumor that you cant have scopes there!?? What the heck. Tell me this isnt true. Anyways, We have our own idiot coming into office down here. I didnt elect him, a bunch of well, uhmm, people that dont care about rights did. ( that was not my initial though by the way)

If they ban them for hunting here, guess what, come find me, and try to take it!! For the Next 40 or so years of my life, Im hunting with my Ar15 and Ar10. I dont care what stupid laws cross the Desk of The up and coming mooroon
 
So Daryl in your opinion .204 should work fine on coyotes?
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BLS700,

It's not just my opinion; it's a proven fact. The .204 is plenty for coyotes out to 300 yards or so, and farther if the shooter is up to it.

I've shot coyotes with a .17 Remington, using a 25 grain Berger match bullet at around 3800-3900 fps. It works very well on coyotes out to about 250-300 yards; about the same range as a .223, but the bullet shoots flatter and doesn't usually exit. You DO need to hit them right.

The .204 is a step up from the .17 Rem (not to be confused with the .17 HMR, which is a rimfire that doesn't even come close). It'll kill coyotes just as well, and most likely a bit farther with good hits. I have friends who use the .204, and they all report good results in both killing power and minimal fur damage.

Like I said in my earlier post though, if the shooter isn't confident in placing a bullet correctly at whatever range they'll be shooting at, the 22-250 or .243 gives you more margin for error. Pretty much any solid body shot with either will anchor a coyote. Even if it's still alive, they just aren't likely to go anywhere (on that note, I don't try for just any body shot, but when you've shot lots and lots of coyotes, things sometimes happen. I was a beginner once, too). The 22-250 and .243 are both hard on fur though, so everything is a trade-off. I feel pretty sure that I've killed in excess of 1000 coyotes with a .243 over many years, and probably around 250-300 with a 22-250

My opinion is that the .17 Rem is sort of an experienced caller's cartridge for coyotes. You have to place that bullet just right. The .223 and the .204 are likely better for a caller that isn't as experienced, and hasn't learned yet what to expect of a coyote on stand, but still wants to utilize the fur. The new guy will get more excited, and will get surprised on stand more often by a coyote, so they're more apt to rush the shot a bit. The heavier bullets of these two offer a bit more margin for error, without destroying furs more than necessary.

The '250 and the .243 are hammers on coyotes, and will likely ruin more furs then they'll save. Many don't care, since they don't skin them anyway. I've sewed up enough furs that I feel qualified to say these two generally aren't fur friendly, no matter the load. I still have a nice pre-64 Win 70 in .243 in my safe, and while I love the rifle and cartridge, I haven't shot a coyote with that rifle in years. It's just too messy, and I've shot more than enough coyotes with it to know.

Daryl
 
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My search for the right low dough longer range pointy bullet flinger continues... It will be a .308 or a .30-06. This will be my long range 'yote killer. For shorter range work I would use the .30-30, 12 or 20 gauge depending on range and mood...
Brent
 
All of this for a small dog that can easily be taken out with a .22LR to 100 yds. Think about how to draw them within range.
 
They are smart little critters though. I called one on out of the brush a while back. As soon as he turned and saw me, I could see the "oh Crap " look on his face. He turned and ran away as fast as he could. Well, against my better judgement, I sent a 55 Grain Vmax right into his left buttcheek. I ran up to him, as he was not able to run. He looked up at me as I cocked my 45. I swear that damn dog closed his eyes as I pointed that pistol at his head. He knew what was coming, he knew he messed up. I felt bad for that coyote. Even as ugly and mangy as he was. If you are gonna hunt, be sure you make a quick kill. Looking your game in the eye will do funny things to you.
 
i could only afford on "do all" gun so i got a .30-06. my cousin shot a yote with his and almost split it in half :D i cant think of nething better suited for worthless vermin
 
I knew we would get a 25-06 fan in there eventually. Great round. As far as the comment about using a .22lr I don't think that is near enough power to be considered a coyote cartridge. My personal opinion is that a hunter should use what he/she KNOWS will put the prey down when hit properly of course.
 
Also thanks for the info Daryl I will be going with the .204. Ballistically it looks like a great round for what I'll be doing. I don't have the confidence or coyote experience to use the .17. As you said that's for an experienced yote hunter. Someday. They are pretty much all over this area now.
 
270 with 100 grain speer hollow points at 3400fps works explosively well, pelts seem to fall right off too, well, whats left of them.:D:D
 
I used to not care at all for ARs, thought they were for mall ninjas, then I moved to coyote country and that changed and I really appreciate the quick second shot. But as time goes on I've found the .223 inadequate so now I think that the 6.5 Grendel is a good round. I don't care about furs; I just want to keep the coyotes out of the cows and goats.
 
I heard some stupid rumor that you cant have scopes there!?? What the heck. Tell me this isnt true.
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It certainly is not true... the gun laws up here, while backwards are not quite as bad as you may think.

Check out www.wolverinesupplies.com, they have some cool stuff for us Canadians.
You can buy a Swiss arms SIG 550 with just a posession acquisiton license which is easy to get. I think we can get a Robinson Armament XCR, and I know that you can get an H&K SL8. AR and AK variants are allowed you just arent allowed to use them anywhere other than a registered gun club and cant hunt with them... you have to be a member of a gun club before they will even give you a license.

I think that sometime in the next few years an H&K SL8 may be in the books for me it looks like a sweet gun... anyone know about mounting a scope/optics on it for hunting type purposes?
 
I don't hunt them but I know that they are smart. I guy that I know bought a shotgun and it didn't take them long to learn to stay out of range.
 
Rem 700 22-250 It's not to much if you reload! I've reloaded bullets fron 40gr to 70gr, from mild to hot. Effective well beyond 400 yrds. My Dad killed a Wyoming antelope with a single shot at 335 yrds using the Rem 22-250 with a 70gr Speer Semi-Spitzer I reloaded for him. Dropped in it's tracks.

For coyote I like the 40gr.

Another combination I tried and liked was the Reminton 30.06 'Accelerator' -55gr bullet w/sabot @ 4000fps. Hard to come by so when I see them I buy all I can. Even tried reloading them w/sabots tools from A. Brown & Co. Mixed results - tough to get consistent:o
 
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