Favorite .357 magnum factory plinking loads?

I'm sure someone will tell me what the difference is but I can't see what it is.

There is no difference! Most of the big self-defense ammunition on the market is sold to consumers in boxes of twenty for an grossly inflated price.

The fifty round boxes are intended to be sold to law enforcement agencies only. A lot of the online retailers sell the boxes at a discount to anyone since they likely act as distributors to local LE agencies and have the ability to get their hands on extra.
 
I like the fiocchi. They have a semi jacketed hollow point that puts out 702 foot pounds. Their 142 gn FP is nice too. Magtecs are cheap but I find they have a lot of muzzle blast and recoil for how slow they are moving, comparatively. S&B (or Herters) 158 gn FP is also a favorite of mine. Nice for plinking and you know you are shooting a 357 but it's not like a 125 gn full house load. Just ordered five boxes of freedom munitions 158 gn FP new in starline brass for $17 a box. Haven't shot any yet cause I'm using up my stock of S&B but I'll let you know.
 
That's the Freedom load I was looking at. Looks to be about the best bang-for-the-buck (pun intended) out there but from the numbers seem to be on a higher level than where I wanted to start. Looking forward to your report on those.
 
Having recently acquired a .357 Blackhawk, I also went on a search for a decent plinking load. I like the look of the HSM Cowboy load: http://thehuntingshack.com/?page_id=86

It's a 158gr hardcast SWC at 1175fps -- not quite as fast as, say, the American Eagle 158gr JSP (1240fps), but much faster than any other cowboy load I've seen. And being a hardcast SWC, it should make for a good varmint bullet. Heck, it'd probably do a decent job on a deer or even a small-to-medium hog. I wouldn't intentionally take these on a hunt, but wouldn't hesitate to use them should I stumble across some pigs while walking the farm.

These typically run about $23 per box of 50 online, and my local Cabellas stocks them for $25 per box. I picked up a couple of boxes, but haven't had a chance to get to the farm to shoot them yet.
 
D'OH!

:o Methinks Mr. Kosh's EYEBALLS are trying to be obstreperous! :o

I THOUGHT that I saw "a 3" SP-101" not a GP-100. Entirely my oversight, and I stand corrected.

You may not want to reload for your revolver today, you may not want to reload for it tomorrow. :cool: But SOME day, you'll end up reloading for it. :cool: Keep that recipe handy for when you do.
 
Georgia Arms has a 357 Cowboy that you might like for "plinking".
That round looks on par with regular .38 Special. Any ideas on why people would buy that and not .38 Special?

Could be a SASS rule but personally I have never fired a cartridge that didn't match the caliber stamped on the barrel. I have plenty of 38 guns, SAA style included, for alternative ammo.

Also, I think there could be a significant difference in recoil and recovery time between a stout 38 and a soft 357 running at the same velocity.
 
So I went to the range today and brought along a few rounds of the 158 gn fp new from freedom munitions to let you know how they shoot. It shot well.
Accuracy was fine. Didn't shoot enough to really explore how accurate it was other than to say that it met the basic threshold of what is acceptable. I'd need to shoot a couple of boxes at once at various distances and various firearms to have any more meaningful input on accuracy.
I was shooting a six inch gp100 which tames recoil enough that it can be hard to feel that big of a difference between loads. Might have been better to test with a snubby. In any case I would say that it was a little hotter than the S&B but not a whole lot more. Muzzle flash was definitely more, but that doesn't matter for a plinking load.
For the price it's definitely a keeper, especially coming in starline brass.
 
Thanks! I'll probably order some in a month or two - if I'm not totally freaked out with the first batch of cream puff loads I ordered. ;)
 
I'm a big, big fan of the Fiocchi 142 grain load for range work. It's highly accurate out of my guns, burns clean, and the conical bullet slips easily into chambers, perfect for speedloader drills: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/91...in-full-metal-jacket-truncated-cone-box-of-50

The only drawback is that it's not quite as powerful as claimed. The company published data claims about 1400 FPS, but independent chronograph tests show that it doesn't really reach those speeds: http://sargesrollcall.blogspot.com/2007/03/on-various-firearms-discussion-forums-i.html . But velocity isn't everything. Even at a mid-range power level this is still a high quality mid-range practice load.
 
Interesting. The 142 looked scarier than the 158r JHP load that I ordered that claims 1220fps. We'll see how I like that one before I try the 142gr screamers.

The 142gr really isn't very hot. Out of my K-Frame it's a pretty pleasant light magnum load. And the accuracy and cleanliness is really top notch. I promise I'm not a Fiocchi sales rep but I stock up whenever I see it on the shelf.
 
Guess I shoulda put "screamer" in quotes in addition to the smiley. I know it isn't close to the baddest even if the 1400fps were accurate. I've seen more than a few loads advertised as 1500+fps and I didn't even look to Buffalo Bore and Underwood. My order came today so hopefully I will get a chance to try some this weekend.
 
Fiocchi ammo tends to run hot, it's low cost and high quality. Their .38 special feels halfway to .357 magnum or more. Sellier and Bellot is pretty good stuff cheap as well.
 
american eagle JSP's are exremely hot, i shot just a couple cylinders and learned quickly that an advertised velocity of 1500ish with a 158gr bullet is too fast for my snubbies and have delegated those for rifle use only, i assume they would make a decent hunting round. The Fiochi 142gr sounds nice, but still pushing 1400FPS with a "not-much-lighter" projectile. I can tell you from my limited factory load experience that the hottest of the hot is the HPR "hyper-clean" using 158gr XTP bullets, which is unfortunate sine they sell 500ct boxes at 17c a round for "blem's" that still use NEW starline brass. The nice medium for me is the Hornaday "custom" 158gr at advertised 1260FPS, comfortable for a snubbie, but to cost prohibitive for plinking. If you are not againt steel-cased, which i am not especially in a revolver(still seals the chamber showing no signs of burn on case mouths) tulammo sells a 158gr loading that is very comfortable and oly runs 16$ a box with decent accuracy and reduced bulk prices available online. Blazer brass JHP is mostly "affordable" for a box of 50 at under 40c a round, these match the velocties of the Hornady Custom load at a hair under 1250 w/158gr bullet. Search around, if you want comfortable, look for 158gr loadings in the 1200-1275FPS area, and although each will have different flash/bang characteristics which can change the "percieved" recoil, they should all be pretty comfotable. I tell you the absolute lightest SD/HD load is the Remington Golden-Sabre 125gr, but as you know these are priced with other premium bullets but have a velocity of 1220FPS(advertised) and are very accurate, i wish the projectiles did better ballistic-wise, if so i would carry these because they are stupid accurate in 357 and 9mm(i think the over-size "driving band actally makes a positive difference in accuracy) but the benefits are outshined by the expensive cost of over 1$ a round. If you want comfortable in a 125gr load, try to stay around 1300-1350FPS (advertised). i have not used Mag-Tech, but at 1230FPS with a 158gr i'll bet they are also not very punishing. It should be pretty simple to find a low-moderate recoiling round simply by reading the numbers. BTW, if you want defensive loads that are insane soft-shooters, check out the leverolution Hornaday Flex-tips, the bullet is so long with the massive polymer tip, that it leaves so litle room for podwer, it makes for a very slow bullet, still expand effectively...but these are not as ballistically efective as other 140-ish grain bullets in the penetration or energy department, and although the flex-tip does consistently promote expansion, i doubt they have much of an advatage over 38+P in a shorter barreled revolver, but they are very very nice shooting ounds with killer accuracy, these are very pricey and am only reccomending if you end up finding yourself very recoil sensitive and need a SD/HD round that produces SOME more power than a 38+P and is super controllable. Short-barrel Gold-Dots in 38 are great for what they are, but have huge clogging issues due to the massive hollow-point cavity.

I myself have found that MOST factory SD 357mag loadings are a little too stout for me, so although sacreligous to some, have found that handloading my own has made me feel much more comfortable. As i was unable to quickly shoot-off follow-ups with 357 loadings and feltthat even the stout 38+P's were somewhat insufficient, THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION, i love a lighter 357 load, like Sierra 125's or Hornaday 125's loaded 5% under starting loads with a very fast powder have given me the best of both worlds and my own testing has proved them to be signifigantly etter perfeormers in penetration and expansion of even the priciest +P's, they have let me stop being worried about what i carry and filled that power-abilty to make quick reaquisitions gap that i had with pouring $$ into factory loads. I have a few friends that felt the same way about their snubbies, some like them loaded to published min's, some just under, and some just 1-200 over 38+P's. my wfe for instance shoots a 110gr GD loaded slap in the middle between 38+P and min 357MAG....sorry to get off course there.

Try the Tulammo and see if it fits your bill for cleanliness/accuruacy/recoil/horsepower and if not, the MagTech's(although close to double the cost) would be a good choice as well as Blazer 158's. Make sure whatever ammo's you try, you write down the advertised velocities along with bullet weight, so you can keep track of what power level you find comfortable for future purposes.......and start handloading ASAP. with start-up kits being so cheap these days but still long-lasting and quickly producing accurate cutom-tailored ammo, your really missing out, especially on a round as fun and versatile as 38/357's, you have the power to load anything you can think up of, with min's in th 600FPS's all the way up to high's in the 1500+ rages, extremely versatile and one of the cheapest to reload for since the use of cast bullets are well tolerated by these calibers, i prefer coated/plated/jacketed bullets only in 1200+ 357mag loadings, but leading is almost never a problem with heavy 38 loads since your speeds are so slow. The investment for a Lee starter press kit and a set of dies is 130$ and your rolling.......hard not to justify the cost of equipment when you can crank out any load you want for under 20c a round if you have collected brass.

good luck.
 
I said I don't want to reload and you give me a reloading recipe. Me thinks Mr. Kosh might be a bit obstreperous himself. just kidding- I'll take that under advisement for later perhaps.

Hey Bud, give Roger at King Shooters Supply a call at 610-491-9901 sales@kingshooters.com, and explain to him why you want to keep buying factory .357 Magnum, he'll either sell you remanufactured ammo the way you want it or he'll convince you that you'll probably amortize the cost of a Dillon RL-550B in no time!
 
I'm not sure what I was thinking when I wrote 17c, if it was a typo or I just misread. Now I am seeing 37c, so I assume typo, but oddly when I wrote that there were only 4 boxes and now what I see has 11, I don't know, I apologize for any confusion. Maybe I was mistaken for the Tula prices which are still 27c a round if bought in 1000 ct
 
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