Experiences with Wolf ammo

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Going to take a few defense classes. I found a good deal on Wolf Ammunition (45 ACP). Does anyone have any experiences with it? My shooting skills will be humbling enough without substandard ammo. Thanx.
 
I couldn't resist the price either. I have 1000 rds of 223 and 200 rds of .45 acp waiting for a test run. I,ll let you know next week what I think about it.
 
Be careful, guys. I read somewhere that the
9mm is hot. I don't know about the 45acp.
I do know that it is steel cased, in which
case I would toss the brass afterwards.
I am curious as to how the 45 functions.
I would appreciate a SITREP after your range
session.

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Never do an enemy a minor injury. Machiavelli
"Stay alive with a 45"
 
I bought 2 boxes of wolf 9x19 recently at a gun show. They were really inexpensive...$6.50 for a box of 50. At the shooting range last weekend they performed very well in my G19. There was only one round that was not up to par. I think that it was a light load. The spent shell became lodged between the top of the barrel and the slide in a horizontal position. I wouldn't rely on these anywhere except for the range. I would like to know how the 45's perform for you.
 
I agree with Yanus. The steel case makes it feel "hot". I've shot about 300 rounds of this stuff without fail. Cheaper Than Dirt has it on sale this month 1000rnds for $99. Can't beat it.

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Wolf ammo rocks! My friend chrono'ed the 115 gr 9mm at about 1275 fps out of a Beretta 92! Whatever you do, just don't use the Wolf .223 in a Mini 14. The lacquer on the primer melts off little chunks that get caught in the firing pin hole. I have personally seen 2 broken firing pins as a result. It rocks in the AR15 though. If they made a hollowpoint, I'd trust my life with the stuff.
 
I have used about 2 cases of Wolf 9mm in a Ruger P89, a Taurus 92, and a Hi Point carbine. It seems hot, had a huge muzzle flash but is very accurate in my guns. I did have a case blow out in a P89 with the first box of ammo I tried, but I don't know if it was the gun, or the ammo. Ruger replaced the barrel and ejector at no cost, and the gun had shot at least 1000 rounds since with no problems.

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Good shootin to ya
Plateshooter
 
I have used some of Wolf 9mm. It was ok, but I haven't used it enough to really come to any solid conclusions yet. As far as I can tell it is accurate but i don't care for the muzzle flash.

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I've used approx. 3000 rds of Wolf 9mm in training and have found it to be OK ammo. But I will be spending a little more in my next procurement and buying something a little better. This stuff is pretty dirty, and I have experienced 10-15 dud rds per 1000. I realize that this is not that high a quality ammo so I guess a person should expect this. The duds seem to be oversize, possibly due to the laquer on the steel case, that causes them to lock the gun up really tight. These jams were cleared by removing the mag, and with the pistol pointed in a safe direction, pushing the muzzle against a 4x4 post to work the action. This practice is advocated by gunsmiths that I have talked to and will result in no damage. Just have plenty of Gun Scrub on hand if you plan to fire a large volume of this stuff.

Be Safe
Mike
 
There was a post about this on the Ar15 page. There is a bad lot of .223 out there. But the Wolf people are taking it back. I have never used it.
 
OK. After picking up 400 rounds at a gunshow and liking the price I got 4000 rounds from J&G (9mm).

I also picked up 500 rounds of .45 given the price.

It is a little bit dirty, has a larger muzzle flash than other brands and is hot. Although you don't really notice it that much except for twilight/night shooting. I was having a problem shooting low with my H&K P7. I then benched the Wolf against some Winchester NATO 124 grain +P and found the Wolf shooting .5-1 inch lower at 15 yards. Now part of that may be me also. I have since switched off of Wolf because I don't care for target practice with anything that hot. I also shot some of another ex-USSR, steel cased, similarly priced brand and it wasn't as hot (This stuff comes in 20 round paper packages).

The .45 seems fine, but I don't really have enough experience in other .45 to compare it too.

The Wolff is brown lacquered. This results in dirty thumb when loading. In addition the lacquer on lacquer binds more than brass on brass so in a double stack magazine it doesn't always seat as well.

YMMV.

By the way, I am now shooting South African, PNP and Denel. It gives me brass for reloading and it isn't as hot.
 
Shot a box of 50 through CZ-75B. Worked fine,
100% reliable and no jams...seemed like a real hot ammo. Accuracy was
not as good as with Fiocchi or Geco, but
better than with UMC. I do not think it was
terribly dirty, but may be 50 rounds were not
enough to reveal this problem.
 
Wolf ammo almost blew up my Glock 19. I had a squib load or possibly a slightly oversized bullet. The round sounded full power, and cycled, but the bullet only went a few millimeters down the barrel. The next round chambered, and thank God the new live round came about a millimeter from chambering fully, at which point I would have pulled the trigger and blown the gun up in my hand and face. I don't recemmend the Russkie Wolf ammo.

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It's cheap, and shoots well. Have been shooting it alot lately. It is, however, somewhat dirty. I always clean my guns after each range session anyway, so that's really not an issue. It seems to be a very good all around practice round. Haven't had any problems with it. Pay $6.99 for a box of 50 FMJ. Shot out of a Glock 19 and a Kahr K9. The round appears to be somewhat hot, and that, by no means is a problem,affording the load a little better penetration.

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[This message has been edited by Sarge55 (edited February 26, 2000).]

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Lacquer, squib loads, I may buy some to shoot up but I don't think i'll be taking it to defensive shooting class with me.
 
Have some in 7.62x39 for my SK. No problems
Will by more of it and try some different calibres.

Happy Shooting :)

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Marv Stenhammer, a security consultant, retired Special Ops soldier, and generally knowledgeable guy, claims that WOLF ammo should be avoided. His words on one Sig list are:

> > Wolfy goes bang, but it is VERY corrosive and has a lot of nasty chemicals and lead in it. Not recomended for indoor shooting and be careful when you clean the gun not to get that residue on you and your family.>>

You can buy high quality 9mm hardball from IMI, Sellier & Bellot, PMP, Denel and Magtech in the $5 - $6 a box range, plus shipping (and $110 - $130 per case, shipped) so why risk using arguably dangerous and corrosive ammo?
 
The 7.62 has worked fine. If you are looking for cheap 9mm ammo, Cheaper than Dirt had S&B on sale 1000/99 plus s&h. 1300 fps sounds pretty damn hot for target practice. Sounds like it was made for full auto use. I have always liked Miwall reloads for practice.
 
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