Exercising a high level of restraint and knowing when to walk away

JohnH

I would be the last man to give you advice or condemn your actions. I have lost count of the circumstances and scars received for being in the WRONG place.

I like the fact that you have codified a set of rules, many of the Owls among us have not. Your rules seem reasonable, may I humbly suggest that you add one, LIVE BY THESE RULES.

Many years ago I "borrowed" a set of rules from someone whom I have forgotten, they are simple like yours. They address a form of passive defense called "giving ground", it goes like this: "Stay as far away as possible from Stupid people, doing Stupid thing, in Stupid places ." Every time I violate this rule, it seems I get a bite on the butt to remind me.:)

Good Luck & Stay Safe
 
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Here in Florida guns are not allowed in bars or clubs where the majority of sales are alcohol related.

Quote: I would be the last man to give you advice or condemn your actions. I have lost count of the circumstances and scars received for being in the WRONG place.

Darn, sounds like something I would say. Scattergun, I buy from your neighbor, Daves Guns
 
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Chuckusaret

Dave is a very good man, his shop is about 3 miles up river from me. He does need to install a LARGE coffee pot and a sitting lounge for his shop to be my favorite place;). His son and daughter in law are starting to take the reins over and seem like very good people.


Good Luck & Be Safe
 
JohnH,
Glad to hear everything turned out okay for you in the end. Not saying you did anything to bring this on as drunk people act without reason, but did you do anything at all to draw the attention from these two seperate parties? Were you with anyone who was bringing attention on your group? Did you bump into one of them, step on a foot, they think you were staring at them if you weren't, beat them in pool, or maybe they're just jealous b/c of your girlfriend/wife? These are all situations that I've been in or seen that have drawn a bad response from a drunk idiot. More info if ya don't mind.
 
Here in Florida guns are not allowed in bars or clubs where the majority of sales are alcohol related.
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True, but theres plenty of blades in the crowd. I usually carry a knife in the bars. I also highly beleive if I indeed defended myself with a knife while intoxicated Id face one hell of a uphill court battle. But Id rather be in jail then dead. I also tend to hang out in dives, but I bring alot of friend and none of us are lookin for trouble. We actually have stopped it a few times. Been lucky so far but I know it wont last forever. Lets hope I wise up before my luck runs out.
 
My dad taught me to do the same as you did. Back out whenever and wherever possible. I've done alright in this mode. Good move.

That said, I'm a HAPPY drunk, and tend to be loose with other peoples women, and a bit mouthy when drinking. I am glad I don't do the drinking for drunk thing anymore. She would have punched me, and thinking it was a game, I would have happily punched her back, and watch out! Can't think of a better way to clear out a bar. Of course, if you are like me in the intoxicated state... She may have had good cause to punch you that way? I'm just saying.:o

Like was said before, good move to back out and leave, better to not go in the first place.
 
There are bars, nightclubs and cocktail lounges. There are also some places which combine stand up comedy with a bar. It's usually the latter that I'm likely to be found in. It's hard to start a fight when you're laughing.

"Cocktail lounges" are often the source of sad amusement to me, especially the small, surburban ones. It seems that's where the lonely housewives end up, especially the ones approaching 50 or 55 who try to dress like they're 28 (shudder).

My father gave me good advice about fights in bars and I listened, knowing that he'd had a few in his time.
It's a poor pair of feet that'll stand around
and watch your face take a beating.​
Glenn said it all... There are nice places to go to have a quiet drink, a nice dance and a good time. Avoid those roadhouse bars way out on Hwy 2895 with the Harley's or pickup trucks. Avoid the downtown "nightclubs" with a parking lot full of souped up rice burners and BMWs.

Most importantly, if someone is looking for trouble, leave before he finds it.

I've had some close scrapes in bars and taken a few lumps too. After half a century plus, I've concluded that bars are where you find drunks and drunks make bad decisions for themselves that often hurt others.

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you need a lot of reasons to ignore hot drunk girls IMO
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No, I don't. I only need one reason - that she's drunk.

I decided a long time ago to avoid making close friends with people who seem to need alcohol to have a good time. Your end-of-day "stress reliever" is okay, but not 3 or 4 of them in two hours. Usually I find that people who equate drinking with fun have lives with more drama than I want to deal with. So... if she's drunk, I can easily say "No thanks".
 
I was at a bar, like many people out there, and there was a high level of intoxication.
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That was your first mistake

Seriously, I’m just not the bar type. I don’t like crowds and it seems that every time I go to a bar the drunkest guy in the bar gets offended at me because I’m not drinking. So, I prefer to practice my Miyagi-do (Daniel-san, best block no be there!) and avoid the situation entirely.

As for level of restraint, I’m too old to fight period. If you’re not an immediate threat to my life I’m leaving
 
you need a lot of reasons to ignore hot drunk girls IMO
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I'll start the list with:

1) Avoiding going to prison and being forever on the sex offender registry. If she is drunk she cannot give her consent. Even if she says, "Yes, yes, yes" while intoxicated she can legally change her mind about it the next day and have you arrested for rape.

2) Avoiding unwanted children. I know that it worked out in the movie Knocked Up but that is as realistic as most Hollywood portrayals of firearms.

3) Avoiding: AIDS, herpes, gonorrhea, syphilis, crabs, etc.
 
Im 21, and stay out in bars till the wee hours of the morning when I go back home to visit family and friends... luckily for me, my best friend is an aux police office :cool: Never any problems.

Picking up "hot" chics you dont know at a bar is never a good idea, but saying you should never go to bars because only evil/sin/badness happens there is a bit extreme. Me and my friends have never had problems. We go, drink beer, play some pool, maybe sing a karaoke song (badly) after a few more beers. Then the DD drives us home. No harm, no fights, never a problem. Only good times...
Some of you seem old and senile...

Though new years is never a good time to be at a bar... for me, my hot tub and a few of my Brazilian friends make a much better time ;)
 
I used to go to bars. I always ended up having too many martinis and single malt scotches. I never did anything illegal, but learned my lesson.
 
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