Ever had an accident?

Several leo's in Indianapolis PD have unintentionally fired a round by pulling their Glock out of pants pockets (sweat pants) or not being careful pulling out of a holster. I consider this an ND :eek:

IMO, Glocks are unsafe. There are much safer tupperware guns available.

But, I have never heard of a Glock going off by iteself, or due to being dropped.
 
Alright, I'll fess up...

This has happened fairly recently, and I hope this will be the only time ever. My best friend and I were chatting with his grandfather about firearms, and he showed us his nice collection in his room, one of them included a WW2 Nazi issued Walther PP, it even had the insignia on the reciever and slide. Up until I was shown that pistol we were dry firing after observing safety by pointing in a direction away from people and making sure there were no rounds in the chamber. Well with this particular pistol being almost 60 years old, my friend double checked the chamber and saw all the way down to where the magazine would be. I triple checked and saw all the way down to where the magazine would be as well. As I brought the pistol up to aim at a wall, I pulled the trigger and suddenly... POP! In an instant my ears were ringing for a few seconds, and everything felt a little unreal, my friend's dad and dad's g/f ran into the room to see what was going on. At that point we all put the guns away. Moral of the story, always do a physical check not just visual, feel for any rounds stuck in the slide this is especially true for older pistols. Needless to say, I'm a lot more careful now with pistols than ever before. Luckily no one was hurt, and there was a small clean cut hole in the wall I shot into; merely inches away from hitting a halogen lamp. All things aside no one was hurt because we were all pointing in a safe direction.

We later joked that the Nazis got their revenge because a non-white fired the pistol. Needless to say Walther makes a fairly accurate pistol indeed. So remember folks, always always ALWAYS do a physical check on your pistols.


Epyon
 
Luckily no one was hurt, and there was a small clean cut hole in the wall I shot into
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The beauty of these 4 safety rules is that if you follow at least 3 of the 4, no one can be hurt (at least no one that shouldn't)

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I think it happens a lot!

Local Police Chief with combat experience in Vietnam + 24 years as a State Trooper put a round into the ceiling in his office at the station.

I was at the range when another veteran LEO was teaching his 14 year old how to operate a model 94, .30-.30 bam! A hole in the roof!

I put several holes in my house with one round out of a .25-06. I was running the rounds through the mag to be sure they would feed. I still do not know why the round fired... no apparent malfunction and I always keep my finger off the trigger.

It happens and if it hasn't happened to you, don't become complacent or it will!:o:o
 
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I saw the title and thought you were referring to "toilet issues".

"Potty Training" it's wonderful stuff. :D

Biker
 
So far, so good. I'm always careful. Doesn't mean something won't happen in the future, but I do my best to prevent making mistakes with my guns.
 
I've never had a negligent discharge. I even ran around Trashcanistan with a loaded M16A2,M203, Mk.19, AT-4, M9, and M240B- usually at the same time! (I used the Eagle Mount system which allowed the Mk.19 AND m240B to be on the truck at the same time- talk about hell on wheels!)

I came close to an ND with my XD-40 Tactical (which I've since traded). I was in my favorite chair doing homework while practicing reloads with 2 mags. Well, there was a 3rd mag on the floor full of 180gr. TAP that I had forgotten about. I was pulling the trigger, dropping one mag, then yo-yo loading the second, repeat. Without thinking I grabbed the wrong mag and slapped it home. Thankfully I short-stroked the slide and jammed the round in a semi-stovepipe position. I almost put a .40cal hole in my alarm clock!

Now I NEVER mix loaded and unloaded mags. Loaded mags have their little place, and empties have theirs. I also have managed to check the chamber before I start playing with my toys-every time so far
 
Accidents happen because someone was irresponsible or stupid! If you feel otherwise then your in denial. Not buying the mechanical defect argument either!!
 
I can honestly say that in 50 years of shooting, I've never had an accidental discharge. My dad (ex-US Army range instructor) drilled safety into my head above all else. Every time I hear about someone with an AD, I can hear my dad saying "there is no such thing as cleaning a loaded firearm."

That's not to say it couldn't happen. I have to lower the hammer on a loaded chamber on my Beretta 87 Cheetah if I want to fire the first shot double action. The muzzle is always pointed in a safe direction before I attempt that, however. I sure wish that gun had a decocking lever instead of just a safety.
 
Humilty anyone?

Which ever direction the arrogant and unread choose to split a hair, AD or ND is a reality and noone should be judged if it has happened to them! One who has experienced one of these events in now Better trained than the arrogant clowns who think they are superior because "they have never" and "they would never". The possibility and reality of ND/AD is why we follow the "basic four"! Karma has its way of getting around to those who need it!

I also recommend some light reading or an armorers course to the "Glocks are unsafe" crowd.
"Sometimes I am amazed but usually just Disgusted"
 
Wow Silentarmy I would like to thank you for reading my mind!
Well i was gonna put a quote from what you said but I'll just second it!
A big plus +1 to you.

Also people If you dont have anything nice to say or want to down someone else because of a mistake then please dont do it here!Especially on a post that starts with "have you ever had an accident?" It was asking a question.If i wanted a lecture then i would call my dad!Not someone who thinks that they can do no wrong cause, you will learn sooner or later we all do.
 
My only one so far was with a BB gun when I was 9 years old, and my dad burned my butt good. I still remember that and I think it helps me keep motivated to be careful today 30 years later.

That said, I'm always finding new ways to screw up even simple things, so I read these accounts of AD/NDs with great interest. I try to be careful but always wonder "am I being careful enough?" Most of the accounts I read here could easily happen to me any particular day. Since I handle my firearms on a daily basis for cleaning, maintenance, checking fit of reloaded rounds etc, I have many many opportunities for an ND to occur. Reading these accounts is helpful to everyone I think to have respect for what could go wrong while doing your routine.
 
I am glad I had an ND !

I am grateful that it didn't come with injury or expense.

Things happen for a reason. I was getting very careless and had not yet learned about the "4". The ND totally woke me up.

I am now intrusted (by God) to instruct my 5 children on gun handling. That ND has made me a much better teacher and gun handler.

Don't persecute someone that has an ND, unless it appears they haven't learned from it.
 
When I was a teen soooo long ago I had a couple "accidental discharges" but these had nothing to do with guns.:D
 
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There is no such thing as an accidental discharge.
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You are mistaken.

An AD (by definition) is caused by a mechanical failure. Do a search and you will find many examples. Posts #3, 12, and 19 for starters...

An ND is due to negligence. Although NDs outnumber ADs, this does not negate the fact that both exist, and will continue to occur.
 
You are mistaken.

An AD (by definition) is caused by a mechanical failure.
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I dont need to do a seach. I can do a search that results in a 22lr bolt with a sope being defined as an assault rifle.

But, most AD will only reslut in injury or death if the operator is negligent in the 4 safety rules.

Gun goes off due to an "AD", but it was pointed at someone in a negligent fashion (anytime it is pointed at someone you don't want to destroy, that is neglient), therefore the discharge and death/injury is a negligent discharge.

I have a friend that had a Walther with a de-cocker. He de-cocked it once and BANG. Prior to de-cocking, he intnentionally pointed it away from anything important, I guess you could call that RARE situation an AD.

I have a rifle I did a rifle basix trigger job to (not recommended), half the time I cycle the bolt, the firing pin drops full force by itself. That would be an AD, but since I know the gun has this problem, it is now ND.

IMO, mechanical ADs are so rare that 99.9% of unintentional discharges are Negligence, not accidents.

In light of safety, and personal responsibility for my actions, I would consider any weapon in my hands that goes BANG without me intending it to - neligent on my part. Mechancial or operator.
 
Does it count if I was asleep when I pulled the trigger? I can tell you from experience that a 10mm Silvertip fired in your bedroom will wake you up in a hurry.:eek: I'm still not sure what I was dreaming about that made me grab the G20 off the nightstand, rack the slide and then touch one off into the wall. Now I sleep with my HD pistol on the top shelf of the closet.:o
 
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