NYPD13 has said it best, IMHO. as an LEO, the last thing we want/need in a situation where we have our weapon drawn, is the subject telling us we are wrong. compliance is key and only makes you look better. especially if we are wrong! at least in illinois, even if you are wrongully detained, you have no right to resist. and yes, even verbal things can be considered/are considered resisting, depending upon the situation.
that said..two things...
1: my service weapon has been drawn countless times, never once has my finger gone straight to the trigger. that's bad training. as a matter of fact, my finger has never been on the trigger on duty unless at the range.
2: i live in illinois, no cc or oc allowed whatsoever. (well, there is a way, and it's legal, but i'll digress) and i work an interstate that is extremely busy. as my state is just one of two that doesn't allow that freedom, just about everyone i pull over is from a cc state. they are treated no different then someone from my own state. i'm alert, hand nearby firearm, but not drawn.
i've even had ccw people hand their DL and their CCW permit. i ask if the weapon is on them or close at hand. if the answer is yes, another officer is requested, without them knowing, once that officer arrives, the subject is asked to setp out of the vehicle and the location of their sidearm. if one their person, they are searched, sidearm removed, magazine/cylinder emptied, ammo/magazine handed to subject, trunk opened, sidearm placed there. if in car, same process, but search is done while subject is next to assisting officer. a quick soundex on the serial number is done to make sure it isn't stolen/ wanted.
while i can arrest them and confiscate their weapon, i won't. while it's your responsibility to make sure you are obeying our laws, i respect that you let me know ahead of time you were indeed carrying. and that's key.
if they are from my state or wisconsin, they might just get arrested, as previously mentioned, not allowed in any condition, save one.
the one video i can think of right away is the female officer who just about shoots the perp while he is being detained, face down on the ground. you can see the concrete turn to dust right next to his head. one word..idiot! here ya go!!!
that said..two things...
1: my service weapon has been drawn countless times, never once has my finger gone straight to the trigger. that's bad training. as a matter of fact, my finger has never been on the trigger on duty unless at the range.
2: i live in illinois, no cc or oc allowed whatsoever. (well, there is a way, and it's legal, but i'll digress) and i work an interstate that is extremely busy. as my state is just one of two that doesn't allow that freedom, just about everyone i pull over is from a cc state. they are treated no different then someone from my own state. i'm alert, hand nearby firearm, but not drawn.
i've even had ccw people hand their DL and their CCW permit. i ask if the weapon is on them or close at hand. if the answer is yes, another officer is requested, without them knowing, once that officer arrives, the subject is asked to setp out of the vehicle and the location of their sidearm. if one their person, they are searched, sidearm removed, magazine/cylinder emptied, ammo/magazine handed to subject, trunk opened, sidearm placed there. if in car, same process, but search is done while subject is next to assisting officer. a quick soundex on the serial number is done to make sure it isn't stolen/ wanted.
while i can arrest them and confiscate their weapon, i won't. while it's your responsibility to make sure you are obeying our laws, i respect that you let me know ahead of time you were indeed carrying. and that's key.
if they are from my state or wisconsin, they might just get arrested, as previously mentioned, not allowed in any condition, save one.
the one video i can think of right away is the female officer who just about shoots the perp while he is being detained, face down on the ground. you can see the concrete turn to dust right next to his head. one word..idiot! here ya go!!!
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