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Ebay is just another Corporation whose sole purpose for existence is to maximize profit.
They must have decided that they were missing out on profit.
They must have decided that they were missing out on profit.
The following gun parts and accessories are allowed on the eBay US site only. The seller must be in the US and offer domestic shipping only:
En bloc clips
Barrels
Bolts
Choke tubes
Cylinders
Firing pins
Hammers
Magazines with a capacity to accept 10 rounds or less (high-capacity magazines that can accept more than 10 rounds are not allowed)
Slides
Trigger assemblies
Correct me if I'm wrong...
Amazon both sells things for other vendors, and also has their own merchandise in their own warehouses.
OTOH, eBay is basically The Thrifty Nickel or AutoTrader but with auction capability. eBay does not stock nor own the products, and in fact never takes possession of them.
Has anybody successfully sued The Thrifty Nickel over faulty, dangerous, or misrepresented merchandise? Ditto for AutoTrader?
If not, then I don't really buy the liability concerns.
Amazon both sells things for other vendors, and also has their own merchandise in their own warehouses.
OTOH, eBay is basically The Thrifty Nickel or AutoTrader but with auction capability. eBay does not stock nor own the products, and in fact never takes possession of them.
Has anybody successfully sued The Thrifty Nickel over faulty, dangerous, or misrepresented merchandise? Ditto for AutoTrader?
If not, then I don't really buy the liability concerns.
Well, there's liability, and there's liability. There's the "we're getting sued because we sold Soylent Green marked as hamburger meat." Then there's, "a guy used us as an intermediary and sold Soylent Green as hamburger meat." The media won't rush to make the distinction; they just want the headline, which reads the same: "Man buys hamburger on eBay, finds out it's made of people!"Has anybody successfully sued The Thrifty Nickel over faulty, dangerous, or misrepresented merchandise? (...) If not, then I don't really buy the liability concerns
The guys at the top of any corporation have oodles of folks whispering warnings of potential calamity in their ears all day long. It's a wonder anything gets done. So, yeah, eBay doesn't want too much risk, whether real or perceived, so they're playing it safe. I'm not saying I agree, but I do understand.
Realitiy is that eBay probably will never allow the sale of firearms ever again on their site. I think we should all be thankful that they have relented on their policy about parts, etc.
I, for one, have found parts that I needed for repair without having to pay $200.00 for said part from some greedy Gunbroker seller.
I, for one, have found parts that I needed for repair without having to pay $200.00 for said part from some greedy Gunbroker seller.
dogtown tom
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True.Tom Servo ....The guys at the top of any corporation have oodles of folks whispering warnings of potential calamity in their ears all day long. It's a wonder anything gets done. So, yeah, eBay doesn't want too much risk, whether real or perceived, so they're playing it safe. I'm not saying I agree, but I do understand.
What the ebayophobes can't grasp is that Ebay is worldwide.......and some countries prohibit not only the sale, but simply advertising prohibited items. Advertise Nazi relics in Germany...its a criminal act.
Ebay is covering their butt, and I have no fault with that. Their company, their rules.
Brian Pfleuger
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eBay has certainly opened itself up to competition. Their seller fees have gotten OUTRAGEOUS. I had an employee who does several thousand dollars a month in baseball card sales on eBay. I couldn't believe the percentages. The last time I sold stuff on eBay, maybe 6 years ago, I was paying a couple bucks on $75 sales. He's paying that on $10 baseball cards, between eBay and PayPal (eBay).
At the time I was selling, I considered it to be virtually "free", cheap enough to be irrelevant. He pays more to eBay than he does sales tax, by a wide margin.
At the time I was selling, I considered it to be virtually "free", cheap enough to be irrelevant. He pays more to eBay than he does sales tax, by a wide margin.
Wow, BT, another (edit) sarcastic and snide, yet off the mark comment.
I think I made clear that my issue with eBay is that they will let customers sell pretty much anything, including items the TFL language filter disallows; yet they actively chose to ban firearms.
Craigslist is another such entity, only they created Backpage to sell less family friendly items. I don't support them, either.
My local steakhouse doesn't carry guns, and that's fine. If they post a no carry sign, then I will boycott them.
Same would hold true for my Chevy dealer.
Mistreatment of lawfully carrying gun owners, plus unsatisfactory corporate response to complaints about same, is exactly why I boycott IKEA.
I am currently unhappy that my dojo will travel to Chicago because the head of US Aikido Federation chose to do a seminar there, and for form's sake we have to show support. Otherwise, I boycott Chicago.
If some of you want to keep going with reductio ad absurdium, at least keep the apples and oranges separate.
I think I made clear that my issue with eBay is that they will let customers sell pretty much anything, including items the TFL language filter disallows; yet they actively chose to ban firearms.
Craigslist is another such entity, only they created Backpage to sell less family friendly items. I don't support them, either.
My local steakhouse doesn't carry guns, and that's fine. If they post a no carry sign, then I will boycott them.
Same would hold true for my Chevy dealer.
Mistreatment of lawfully carrying gun owners, plus unsatisfactory corporate response to complaints about same, is exactly why I boycott IKEA.
I am currently unhappy that my dojo will travel to Chicago because the head of US Aikido Federation chose to do a seminar there, and for form's sake we have to show support. Otherwise, I boycott Chicago.
If some of you want to keep going with reductio ad absurdium, at least keep the apples and oranges separate.
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I think this is great news, I buy a lot of stuff off of ebay. They really do make auctions and transactions so very easy. Whether you like their policies or not, it is a really well built sight. I'd be pretty happy if they would just expand to reloading supplies. It would be cool if I could get bullets, primers, and powder there. Magazines and parts will be a huge plus though.
Gunbroker sells guns.
It is their reason for being.
eBay sells ANYTHING. Check out the Miscellaneous/Weird subsection. You might find dryer lint; dead skin; play-DOH sculptures in naughty poses; broken garden gnomes; old issues of men's magazines; discarded tissues. Sadly, I am not joking. I saw these sorts of things back in 2003, when a web-designer friend said, "Check this out, you won't believe it."
But eBay actively decided that firearms were unacceptable.
You guys buy through them if you want. I will not.
It is their reason for being.
eBay sells ANYTHING. Check out the Miscellaneous/Weird subsection. You might find dryer lint; dead skin; play-DOH sculptures in naughty poses; broken garden gnomes; old issues of men's magazines; discarded tissues. Sadly, I am not joking. I saw these sorts of things back in 2003, when a web-designer friend said, "Check this out, you won't believe it."
But eBay actively decided that firearms were unacceptable.
You guys buy through them if you want. I will not.
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Ebay lost me a long time ago, when they assigned themselves as the internet police!! The Calif./Corp mentality along with their Paypal only nonsense is not worth the hassle. And FYI both companies are one big Anti Gun organization....No Thanks I'll spend my hard earned $$ elsewhere!
Ebay lost me a long time ago, when they assigned themselves as the internet police!! The Calif./Corp mentality along with their Paypal only nonsense is not worth the hassle. And FYI both companies are one big Anti Gun organization....No Thanks I'll spend my hard earned $$ elsewhere!
Gunbroker sells guns.
It is their reason for being.
Exactly. And , they do a good job of it. Their entire website is dedicated to the legal issues involved, lists of FFLs, related links, etc.
I have no idea why anybody would want or expect eBay to get in to one market that has so many specific issues to deal with.
ZeroJunk, eBay doesn't stay out of any other legal market I can think of. It's a whole different ballgame.
You could, in theory, assemble all the hardware and many of the chemicals you would need to start a meth lab via eBay.
You could buy adult toys via eBay.
You could buy The Anarchist's Cookbook, via eBay.
They don't choose to avoid controversial items, in general; they don't choose to avoid potentially dangerous items (you can buy used cars, ATVs, and motorcycles via eBay).
I had a friend who used to sell bar supplies from bars that either went out of business or were renovating, via eBay. I don't see eBay worrying about liability from unlicensed alcohol vendors purchasing vats, taps, etc. They allow all that to be sold.
eBay made a conscious decision to disallow guns, specifically, and they were pretty heavy-handed about it when they made the decision.
So you can buy from eBay if you want; heck, you can buy the gear to set up both a meth lab and a bar from them if you want, and cater to anarchist explosive makers who bought their know-how and some of their supplies from eBay, if you want.
Me, I won't support them.
You could, in theory, assemble all the hardware and many of the chemicals you would need to start a meth lab via eBay.
You could buy adult toys via eBay.
You could buy The Anarchist's Cookbook, via eBay.
They don't choose to avoid controversial items, in general; they don't choose to avoid potentially dangerous items (you can buy used cars, ATVs, and motorcycles via eBay).
I had a friend who used to sell bar supplies from bars that either went out of business or were renovating, via eBay. I don't see eBay worrying about liability from unlicensed alcohol vendors purchasing vats, taps, etc. They allow all that to be sold.
eBay made a conscious decision to disallow guns, specifically, and they were pretty heavy-handed about it when they made the decision.
So you can buy from eBay if you want; heck, you can buy the gear to set up both a meth lab and a bar from them if you want, and cater to anarchist explosive makers who bought their know-how and some of their supplies from eBay, if you want.
Me, I won't support them.
Ok, Zero Junk, fine by me. Do what you like.
But as far as "nutty" goes... You and a couple others have tried making counter comparisons that are just weird.
GunBroker specifically deals in firearms and firearm parts and accessories; burger joints specifically deal in burgers; Chevrolet makes and sells cars and trucks.
They don't sell a range of virtually everything one can lawfully buy, but then exclude one specific item.
There is a huge difference. Either you don't see it, or you just don't want to consider the point.
But as far as "nutty" goes... You and a couple others have tried making counter comparisons that are just weird.
GunBroker specifically deals in firearms and firearm parts and accessories; burger joints specifically deal in burgers; Chevrolet makes and sells cars and trucks.
They don't sell a range of virtually everything one can lawfully buy, but then exclude one specific item.
There is a huge difference. Either you don't see it, or you just don't want to consider the point.
Poodleshooter
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Why bother with ebay? They've mostly become a storefront for start up e-retailers these days anyway, with relatively few "real" auctions as a percentage of listings. I've had little problem selling things for free on well trafficked gun websites like TFL, arfcom, etc. I'd rather give them the site hits than ebay.
There's something to be said for a targeted audience and no fees to cut into your sales.
There's something to be said for a targeted audience and no fees to cut into your sales.
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