Drawing magazine

Hi Jim,

The concept of the tactical reload which you have pointed out seems to be growing in popularity. As a soldier you are taught to always know the number of bullets you have fired from your rifle or pistol.

I think what is best depends on the situation. For e.g. If I have say two rounds left in a magazine and I have to cover someone who is about to make a run then it would be imperative that I do a tactical reload. If we were under cover taking timed, aimed shots
however then we could always run a magazine dry.

On the streets, in civilian mode if one magazine of 15 rounds is not sufficient then you have the wrong tool for the job or need more range time and should hightail it out of wherever you are. I only carry a 2nd magazine in case of magazine failure.
 
The question of whether one "quits" when shot would seem to me to depend on a lot of factors, mainly where one is shot. If you are dead, you quit, no matter how much courage you had. However, I do not "plan" to be shot or stabbed. I plan to anticipate the situation and either avoid it or be ready for it, which means that if I am carrying a gun it will be in my hand when things get nasty.

The problem I see with gun games is not that they are not fun, they are. But I don't see most of them as being serious preparation for combat. The idea of standing in the open, which seems to be common in the games, does not appeal. If I am being shot at, I want to get my precious bod the hell out of the way as quickly as possible, not stand like a silly fool and present a perfect stance because some gun guru teaches it that way.

If there is no other cover, I would just drop flat. It is really rare when there is no cover; a tree, a mailbox, a wall, a curb, a parked car, all can provide cover and I was trained to use them. As one instructor used to say about taking cover, "You can't protect and serve anybody if you are dead!" I still think that is good advice.

Jim
 
Jim, all I can say is that they must conduct these matches differently where you live than the ones I have participated in. Not trying to start anything, but have you every tried an IDPA match or watched one ?

IDPA Course Design Rationale

"When the IDPA founders set out to structure "Defensive Pistol" guidelines, the one area that became very critical to the long-term survival of this shooting discipline was the problems that shooters are asked to solve must reflect reality. Requirements like the use of cover, reloading behind cover and the limit of 18 rounds per string of fire were all based upon the principle that defensive pistol shooting should help promote sound basic self-defense tactics and test the skills you would need in a real self-defense encounter. Other guidelines in Course Design such as most ranges being 15 yards or less reflect the fact that real life self-defense requirements rarely require handguns to be used beyond this distance. If on special occasions you want to utilize targets in excess of 15 yards this can be allowed to test shooting skill. Our goal is to make the ranges at which we engage targets to be within the norm of most self-defense scenarios."

"If barricades or other range props that are designed to allow the shooter to use them for cover are provided, make sure that they are used properly. Make the shooter stays behind the cover area while actually shooting or reloading. A common problem is when using some form of low barricades, many shooters will want to squat and shoot, then move quickly to the next firing area. This type of tactic is very common in IPSC. Clearly, the squat position is fastest to use in many events... but it is a match tactic and not a viable survival one. If you are going to use low cover for protection, you will not use this gamesman squat. The answer to solve the problem of using a low cover position is to require the shooter to have at least one knee on the ground when actually firing. Now someone is bound to note that older shooters will be slower on this than young ones ... or a person with a prior knee injury will not be able to do this technique as well as someone with a good set of knees. This is a fact of life, and will be exactly the same in a real life self defense scenario."

"4. When cover is available, it MUST be used both when shooting and reloading. "

"19. PROPER USE OF COVER: If cover is available, the shooter must use it! More than 50% of the shooter’s upper torso must be behind cover while engaging threat targets and/or reloading. If the shooter is shooting from low cover, one knee must be on the ground while shooting. When using vertical cover such as a wall/barricade, 100% of the shooter’s legs/feet must be behind cover while engaging threat targets and/or reloading. If in the opinion of the SO adequate cover is not being used (if the shooter does not have to move between target engagements, this is a strong indicator that adequate cover is NOT being used), the SO will yell COVER. If the competitor immediately moves to adequate cover, NO penalty will be assessed. If the competitor does NOT immediately move to adequate cover, a three (3) second procedural penalty will be assessed. All reloads must be executed behind cover, if cover is available, and must be completed before leaving cover (Shooters may not move from one position of cover to another with an empty weapon). The firearm will be considered LOADED when the fresh magazine is seated and the slide is closed or revolver cylinder is closed. Failure to reload behind cover or moving from cover with an empty weapon will result in a three (3) second procedural penalty per infraction. "
 
For the record, I plan to shoot the gun dry as long as the target is available and then stuff another mag in as fast as I possibly can while zigging and zagging like the Tazmanian Devil for something to hide behind .

If I'm under cover and there is time available or the original target is no longer a threat, I'll top the gun off and keep the partially-used mag if I possibly can.

Why have a partially empty gun when you can have a fully-charged gun? Why do anything less than make the most of every single round you have? Not only from a fight-winning perpective, but from a liability perspective as well. I need my rounds to contact the target. It will not be easy to do, therefore I will devote my full attention to it. I'll reload when I need more ammo or the opportunity presents itself. The object, IMHO, is not to send lead downrange in the direction of the target, but to impact the target early and often. A miss does not help me.

Also for the record, like defox says, I carry a spare mag primarily in anticipation of a mag-related failure - not running out of ammo.

That said, however, if I die in a gunfight, it won't be for lack of shootin' back! (I forget who said that...)

- Gabe
 
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