Dragoon Revolver in 45-70 by Firearm Specialties

If, however, you modify the gun to shoot modern cartridge ammunition (eg, installing a cartridge conversion cylinder), then you cannot sell the gun with that modification installed without a federal excise tax license. You may, however, remove the modification, sell the gun as a percussion revolver and then sell the modification separately without the tax license.



Not...so...sure.... of this.

As long as you are manufacturing for private use (for yourself), and not "engaged in manufacture" as an enterprise, the occasional sale of self-manufactured firearms was legal the last time I checked. It's the intent at the time of manufacture that comes into play: Make it with the intent to sell it immediately and you need a license. Make it with the intent to keep it, and then later change your mind and wanrt to sell it... that's fine. It's exactly the same "soft" definition that is the issue when guys rent tables at gunshows to "sell their private collections" as opposed to getting a FFL and renting a table to "do business". Like ****, I can't define it but I know what it is when I see it, and that's the same thing when the Feds look at gunshow "provate sales" and "selling homebuilt firearms".

They are *firearms* once they are permanently modified, and can swing back and forth between being "firearms" and "antique firearms" if all they have is a conversion cylinder. When you add a conversion cylinder you are the "manufacturer" and you can un-make it later.

But: there is no permanent prohibition against sale of a personally manufactured firearm as long as you're not making them for sale to begin with. One of the differences is that you can have non-serialized hombuilt stuff "at home" but apparently you need to add a serial number and manufacturers name to what you might want to later sell.


A Walker is a .45-60 BTW ... :rolleyes:



Willie

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I've thought of having a 45-70 revolver but i'd rather have something that could be suppressed so I can fire some 500gr subsonic loads. :)
 
Federal Law mandates that if you perminately change/modify any Replica/original C&B ... ect. it is illegal to sell said Revolver. But does not say under Federal Law that you must register it ... that would include grinding out the right side of the frame to rear load a Konvertor such as a Kirst gated or not... and thats my limited education on it.

That's not what the law says. The law says that you cannot engage in the business of manufacturing firearms unless you are licensed. The law also defines what being engaged in the business is. If you're just a guy who owns a C&B gun and installs a cartridge converter in it, you're not engaged in the business, even if you later sell it.

Read 18USC, Chapter 44, paragraphs 921 and 922 for the details.

And, on the topic, sort of, I think that Magnum Research makes a .45-70 revolver. I've never seen one in action, but the pictures scared me plenty!
 
Sort of in the same vein, there are videos on You Tube of a Walker repro with a Kirst Konverter rechambered to .460 S&W loaded with holy black and an assortment of lead balls and slugs. Seems like a real nifty idea to me.
 
Here ya go.:D

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Hawg, Lets be realistic here. That is just not feasible. Everyone knows about bottleneck rounds and set back problems in revolvers. Lol.
 
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