Don't use a car door for cover

Any cover may be better than no cover at all, but if you are going to use a car for cover, how much harder is it to get behind a solid structure (wheel, engine block) than to get behind a door?
 
Depends on the vehicle. We used to own this station wagon, I swear the doors were paper thin. On our other cars they are much thicker.
 
There appear to be some hidden presumptions here, including in my own post: Are you in the car, or out of it?
Is the car moving, or stopped? Can you move the car?
What direction is the attack coming from - front, rear, drivers side, passenger side?
Can you drive out of the kill zone, or are you truly blocked in? Could you get out by driving on the sidewalk?

And most important:
Are you the target of a dedicated attack, or just blocking someone's escape?

All of them change the potential answers. First, as always, we must define our terms and frame of reference.
 
See the Box O' Truth!

Pistols: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot3.htm

Rifles: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot4.htm

I have seen the information here verified in the "Best Defense" on the outdoor channel.

Bottom line: "Cars are bullet magnets, get behind the engine block if you can't get away from the car. Then, get away for the car ASAP!"

Edit:

Windsheilds too!

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot1.htm

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot2.htm

Don't forget the shotguns versus the car!

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot5.htm

And finally, the engine:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/buickot7.htm
 
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I did not watch the vid, but I would rather use a car door than nothing.
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I think they should look for Gander Mountain first.

Or instead, look for the nearest couch.

At least that takes there sight picture site out.

They learned that the hard way in LA against AK47s.
 
I agree that a car door should not be used as cover. There are only two areas of a car that I would want to be behind if rounds were being sailed my way, and they have already been mentioned. With that said…if the only thing standing between me and live rounds were a car door, then you can bet I’d be behind that car door until I could respond appropriately, flee, run, or find better cover.
 
Certainly was interesting to watch the car door get shot up. I think the point of the video was to basically say car doors aren't bullet proof so don't treat them as a life saving device.
 
There is a psychological part to this as well - many people (including LEO's) will not shoot at someone they cannot see. Many years ago an LEO in California took cover behind and empty cardboard refrigerator box, with the open side facing the outlaw! The bad guy shot at the officer when he looked around the sides, but never tried to shoot him through the box!

It may only be concealment, but if it works, who cares?


8shot357, I don't understand your post at all. Gander Mountain? A couch? What are you trying to say??
 
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8shot357, I don't understand your post at all. Gander Mountain? A couch? What are you trying to say??
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Never mind, I was tired had a few drinks, and trying to be funny. I meant any mountain and Gander came to mind. Getting behind anything other than nothing is better than just staying out in the open. Even a cardboard box I guess. Sorry for sounding dumb.:D
 
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