You don't have to go to far south. Come to Kentucky! I've only seen one place in kentucky that has a sign up and it references the Ohio revised code so I ignore it. It's the Danbarry theatre. Thankfully, the castle doctrine becomes active July 12th. Hooray!! I can protect myself without fear of getting sued by "the victims" relatives.
DON'T CARRY in HERE.....OHIO
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Central Ohio doesn't have as much a problem as I have heard about in the NE and SW parts of Ohio (Cleveland and Sinsinatty areas), . . . but there are a few.
I used to regularly shop in Delaware, . . . and a barbershop (lady hairdresser was afraid someone would leave his handgun on the toilet and her son would shoot up the place
), . . . plus an oriental restaurant and a pizza joint were the only private businesses I ever saw. Yeah, . . . you got it, . . . I don't shop them places any more.
Columbus has its hands full with its half-baked, . . . Jesse Jackson act-alike mayor, . . . Coleman. He's always running his chops about something, . . . and as an anti-gunner, . . . he loves going down that slope. He even tried to get city council to pass an ordinance that any property (parks, sidewalks, parking lots, the whole schmeer) would be posted as CCW off limits.
Anyway, . . . may God bless,
Dwight
I used to regularly shop in Delaware, . . . and a barbershop (lady hairdresser was afraid someone would leave his handgun on the toilet and her son would shoot up the place
), . . . plus an oriental restaurant and a pizza joint were the only private businesses I ever saw. Yeah, . . . you got it, . . . I don't shop them places any more.Columbus has its hands full with its half-baked, . . . Jesse Jackson act-alike mayor, . . . Coleman. He's always running his chops about something, . . . and as an anti-gunner, . . . he loves going down that slope. He even tried to get city council to pass an ordinance that any property (parks, sidewalks, parking lots, the whole schmeer) would be posted as CCW off limits.
Anyway, . . . may God bless,
Dwight
Roberta X, the thing is, there's a specific charge in TX for unlawfully carrying where a 30.06 sign has been posted. But the sign must be plainly posted in the understood language to make the charge stick.
While I don't agree with the philosophy, I still hold that a property owner has certain rights, and the right to decide who comes on their property is one of them. But just because some clerk decides to stick up a hand-lettered sign in the corner of a shop window, or some night manager decides to put up a semi-professional sign in front of ONE entrance shouldn't mean that the CHL carrier should be charged with a Class A misdemeanor.
While I don't agree with the philosophy, I still hold that a property owner has certain rights, and the right to decide who comes on their property is one of them. But just because some clerk decides to stick up a hand-lettered sign in the corner of a shop window, or some night manager decides to put up a semi-professional sign in front of ONE entrance shouldn't mean that the CHL carrier should be charged with a Class A misdemeanor.
Long Path, do you see the difference between a sign that says "Don't come here if you are armed" and a sign that says, "You must disarm yourself to come here?" The TX wording says "disarm yourself." The heck I will; I'll shop elsewhere.
...And that doesn't even touch the very preposterous notion that a business-owner has the power to regulate that which he cannot see. Telling me I can't carry concealed in your business is exactly the same as telling me I cannot wear thong underwear beneath my jeans; or that I am not welcome if I happen to be quietly Buddhist or that I mustn't use a fountain pen: it's personal behavior. It doesn't enter into the transaction. It's none of the business owner's darned business. And he's not going to get my business as long as he takes such an attitude.
I do promise you, if ever I am in TX and though some oversight happen to enter a posted business, I'll cower quietly if bad guys shoot the owner and his employees down in cold blood. He or she chose to disarm the law-abiding and is welcome to die of it. It improves our species.
...And that doesn't even touch the very preposterous notion that a business-owner has the power to regulate that which he cannot see. Telling me I can't carry concealed in your business is exactly the same as telling me I cannot wear thong underwear beneath my jeans; or that I am not welcome if I happen to be quietly Buddhist or that I mustn't use a fountain pen: it's personal behavior. It doesn't enter into the transaction. It's none of the business owner's darned business. And he's not going to get my business as long as he takes such an attitude.
I do promise you, if ever I am in TX and though some oversight happen to enter a posted business, I'll cower quietly if bad guys shoot the owner and his employees down in cold blood. He or she chose to disarm the law-abiding and is welcome to die of it. It improves our species.
I'm sorry to hear that businesses in Ohio are engaging in that nonsense. I lived most of my life in Southern Ohio but a few years ago had to move to the Detroit area. I've seen almost no signs banning CC while I've been here (I live in the suburbs, not the city proper). Michigan has had CC since about 2001. It's funny how I used to think Michigan was mostly a Blue state and Ohio mostly Red. I guess the more urban ("blue") areas in Ohio see most of the signs. Let's hope that after awhile those places come to their senses.
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gunslinger555
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Dwight55,when i lived in the columbus area when we were driving around their was on neighberhood that seemed like a realy bad one and before you got into it thair was signs posted that said "this is a gun free zone" and also said the typical "persuant to ohio revised code" and so fourth
I think I had better make clear that I am not suggesting anyone disobey a properly-posted 30.06 sign in TX (or even, for that matter, an improperly-posted one: can you afford an attorney sharp enough to point out the technicality and make it stick?).
Likewise, if your state has laws allowing such invasions of your civil rights, there are better ways of dealing with them than by breaking those laws.
I do think it is a good idea to not do business with merchants who post such signage and to send them a polite letter explaining why.
...But I'd be willing to bet the bad guys don't respect the signs.
Likewise, if your state has laws allowing such invasions of your civil rights, there are better ways of dealing with them than by breaking those laws.
I do think it is a good idea to not do business with merchants who post such signage and to send them a polite letter explaining why.
...But I'd be willing to bet the bad guys don't respect the signs.
they are full of it
first they have you register your guns .when are they going to ask us to regiter knives.its time to wake up our congressmen. put term limits on them and any action they vote upon should not benefit them OR their family NOw or in the future.if we can confiscate any profits from drug dealers how come we cant do the same for corporate theifs and congressmen????
first they have you register your guns .when are they going to ask us to regiter knives.its time to wake up our congressmen. put term limits on them and any action they vote upon should not benefit them OR their family NOw or in the future.if we can confiscate any profits from drug dealers how come we cant do the same for corporate theifs and congressmen????
I've noticed that the "no CCW" signs here south of Cleveland are beginning to disappear. The local pizza carry-out place, gone. The local drug store, gone.
They still have them at my mom's retirement apartment complex (I can't imagine I'd need a handgun there), hospitals, and schools.
People over-reacted and posted them everywhere.
Maybe there are still a few people with a bit of common sense.
They still have them at my mom's retirement apartment complex (I can't imagine I'd need a handgun there), hospitals, and schools.
People over-reacted and posted them everywhere.
Maybe there are still a few people with a bit of common sense.
johnsonrlp
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Funny, I went to a gun show at the Convention Center today. There's a sign (not a 30'06) that say's no weapons, outside the entrance.
Avoid as much as possible the places that ban guns. Leave those places to the shoplifters. If you must go there, either go unarmed or go concealed. Either way, no one should know, right?
Things will turn around for Ohio. At least it's moving in the right direction, which is the opposite of what I can say for California, where I used to live. The more Ohioans begin to carry--and shop--concealed, the more the signs will come down.
By the way, I've never seen any of those signs in either NC or GA, except at airports and courthouses. Since I rarely frequent either, it's been no big deal so far.
Things will turn around for Ohio. At least it's moving in the right direction, which is the opposite of what I can say for California, where I used to live. The more Ohioans begin to carry--and shop--concealed, the more the signs will come down.
By the way, I've never seen any of those signs in either NC or GA, except at airports and courthouses. Since I rarely frequent either, it's been no big deal so far.
MatthewVanitas
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In the area right across from OSU (do they call it "The Drag"?) a huge proportion of businesses had "NO GUNS ALLOWED" signs posted up in 2005. A lot of them were printed on newsprint with dotted lines around the edges, so presumably some left-leaning paper published said signs and encouraged businesses to clip-n-post.
Texas has some signs far weirder than 30-06 though. I dropped by a K-Mart in Austin once, and it took me several minutes of staring at their sign to figure out what it meant. It basically said "Carrying a firearm other than the type which you are licensed to carry is a violation of Section XYZ..."
Since Texas has a "Any Handgun" permit and a "Revolver Only" permit, that sign is apparently a reminder that you could be arrested if you're licensed for a revolver but carrying a semi. For the life of me, I don't see how that issue could be so problematic for K-Mart...
-MV
Texas has some signs far weirder than 30-06 though. I dropped by a K-Mart in Austin once, and it took me several minutes of staring at their sign to figure out what it meant. It basically said "Carrying a firearm other than the type which you are licensed to carry is a violation of Section XYZ..."
Since Texas has a "Any Handgun" permit and a "Revolver Only" permit, that sign is apparently a reminder that you could be arrested if you're licensed for a revolver but carrying a semi. For the life of me, I don't see how that issue could be so problematic for K-Mart...
-MV
That's why I shop at Wal-Mart. There's K-mart's still around? God I hate that store. Not for hippy reasons, K-Mart just seems to suck compared to Wal-Mart. And they stopped selling handgun ammo because of the Hippo O'Donnell.
If I owned a store or business, I'd prefer my clients packed heat. It'd deter criminals from tryign to stir up crap in my establishment. Hell, I'd have a sign posted asking (politely of course) that you carry your weapon in.
They had one of those 30.06 (which made me laugh when I first saw it) signs in my high school right by teh VP's office. Ironically, he is a HUGE gun owner/rights. In his office is tons of pics of him and his sons taking down a lot of white tails.
If I owned a store or business, I'd prefer my clients packed heat. It'd deter criminals from tryign to stir up crap in my establishment. Hell, I'd have a sign posted asking (politely of course) that you carry your weapon in.
They had one of those 30.06 (which made me laugh when I first saw it) signs in my high school right by teh VP's office. Ironically, he is a HUGE gun owner/rights. In his office is tons of pics of him and his sons taking down a lot of white tails.
Screw 'em. They'll never know, unless the *%&! really hits the fan -- and in such a case, are you gonna care that they're upset that you had a gun in their shop?
You have to make the choice, as you pointed out: boycott and go hungry; leave your gun behind and worry; go in armed anyway and think to yourself, "Screw you, idiot."
If I can help it, I will avoid such places. There are VERY few that I have noticed around here, but recently I became aware that appliance/electronics store Brandsmart U.S.A. has a posted sign forbidding firearms. It very specifically says "even if you have a license to carry concealed." (DUH! Who else would you have been directing the policy at -- criminals?! Like they were gonna see the sign and then turn around, even though they were planning to rob the place.
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-azurefly
You have to make the choice, as you pointed out: boycott and go hungry; leave your gun behind and worry; go in armed anyway and think to yourself, "Screw you, idiot."
If I can help it, I will avoid such places. There are VERY few that I have noticed around here, but recently I became aware that appliance/electronics store Brandsmart U.S.A. has a posted sign forbidding firearms. It very specifically says "even if you have a license to carry concealed." (DUH! Who else would you have been directing the policy at -- criminals?! Like they were gonna see the sign and then turn around, even though they were planning to rob the place.
)-azurefly