Done with Remington Golden 22lr

but I get 3 or 4 duds in every pack of 525; that's it.

I have had the same experience, particularly with the Remington subsonics. My 22's are a Ruger 10/22 and a Mark II and neither of them can shoot off these duds, no matter how often I rechamber. I never get a dud out of CCI or Federal Bulk, or the small boxes of Fiocchi I buy occasionally. I have also never gotten a dud out of the Rem. hyper velocity bullets, however.
 
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The lessor reliability of the bulk Remmington 22lr round is not a
new issue. In fact, it has been discussed on many, many threads.
It is not a "regional" issue. Check out the AMMO threads on
Rimfire Central Forum if you need some convincing.

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Respectfully, I do need some convincing. I use it regularly and have very few issues. I am a member of Rimfire Central and even if there were ten billion threads dedicated to how bad RGB is at that forum, it doesn't change my experince in the slightest

Yup, same here.

How would you explain the high praise for Federal's bulk 550 pack when they have been absolute crap for me? And that was 3 packs bought at 3 different times and stored. And the fact that I have never yet had a problem with this threads subject ammo and Chris has had little if any?

Agreed. Its almost a pistol or personal luck thing. In general I've had no real issues with either Remginton or Federal. They both have failure rates, but my RUgers and Brownings ate them up. Interestingly my Ruger high end target loved one type of Remington while another Ruger preferred the golden.
At $18 a brick I am not that concerned.
 
Well some people had luck with the GM vega too or the fiats but that still dont make them getting past junk. Years ago the bulk win stuff was the stuff my guns would choke up on and I would only buy rem HV or the CCI stuff now the bulk gold HV wont even run in the guns that ate it like candy 30-40 years ago.

Only plus is I have a stack of the older stuff on hand that works.
 
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Your gun might be the problem, or rather the interaction between your gun and a certain ammo. .22s are notoriously picky, especially semi auto pistols.

I have seen some guns choke on high dollar premium ammo and run cheap crap like water through a hose. And I have seen the opposite (and much more often). Try everything, and shoot what works best in your gun(s).

Eh, my bone stock 10-22 will eat most anything fed to it, but Remington Golden Bullets are at about 10% failure rate. Any other brand I have tried is 0% -1%.

My Ruger MK-II, again bone stock, will fire any .22 rimfire you can force into the chamber, including old range pickups, whatever. Again, the Remington Golden Bullet has about a 10% failure rate in this pistol while other brands have 0% -1%.

Remington Golden bullet is the problem. It's crappy ammo, I've chronographed it and it can be off 200fps between cartridges, when it fires. That's quite a bit bit for the average velocity of the cartridge.
 
After a RGB feed issue, Ruger customer support said dont use, they are out of spec.

Give their notariety, is is amazing Remington doesn't do something. But, heck, they let the 700 rifles safety issue go on until there were numerous deaths. One just 14 miles from me 2 years ago.
 
Glad I found this thread.

Wow Guys, This is great info. For the last year I have been developing a much improved version of the BMF Activator, and Gat trigger, designed specifically for the 10/22. I bought a LOT of remington ammo for testing perposes, and have seen a consistent 10-15% dud rate in over 50 Rugers that I have testd so far. At first I suspected my device, but found that I saw the same dud rate weather I used it or not. I was lucky to empty a 30 Rnd clip. I hate to toss rem, but I think I need to at this point.
Thank you all for confirning my suspicions.:)
 
Bye Bye Rem golden

Shooters:

I had about a couple hundred rem golden LR left in my ammo case. Took the 10/22, the nylon rifle, and the S&W 22a out yesterday, loaded all my magazines and killed a whole lotta paper. I didn't get through one single magazine, including the five round mag for the nylon rifle, without a mis fire. Most had two some had three.

I squirrel hunt with the rem yellow jackets, which also have a serious mis-fire rate, but will probably keep using them cause the 10/22 seems to like the way they shoot.

Yea, why does remington let this stuff stay on the shelf. I usually associate the name "Remington" with good quality fire arms.

Live well, be safe
Prof Young
 
I've relegated the remaining few hundred rounds of various .22 ammo to my "last resort" stash.

Don't do that! How you get rid of that ammo is to go spend your lunch money one day and pick up some CCI Mini Mags and then replace the stored ammo with the CCI's and go shoot up the crap and don't buy more of it. Don't store crappy ammo! :D

I buy CCI's by the box or two fairly regularly and it stacks up fast. (goes down fast too!). Stingers run real good in my stock 10/22. Mini Mags aren't Match grade by any means but they work pert darn good in a variety of 22's.

I used to buy Rem Golden bulk bullets. They shoot fairly straight but do have duds. I wont buy them any more.
 
I've relegated the remaining few hundred rounds of various .22 ammo to my "last resort" stash.
Don't do that! How you get rid of that ammo is to go spend your lunch money one day and pick up some CCI Mini Mags and then replace the stored ammo with the CCI's and go shoot up the crap and don't buy more of it. Don't store crappy ammo!

I've relegated it to my last resort stash as in: "I'll shoot this at them after I've shot up every other round in every other caliber in the whole of my stockpile". I'm not relying on it. I'll use it instead of throwing rocks if it ever comes to that. Then I'll throw rocks.

I have lots of mini mags in the safe. Don't worry:-)

I'm not going to bury the brick ammo so this seems like a reasonable fate for it.
 
Unfortunately I have a lot of it,,,

Back during the last great ammo shortage,,,
I stocked up on whatever I could find,,,
Whenever/wherever I could find it.

I bought ten 550 round bulk packs of the garbage,,,
I only use it in my single-shot rifles now,,,
Usually they will fire with a 2nd hit.

But man is it annoying,,,
And I still have 7 packs of the crap left. :(

Aarond

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Yep, mis fire yellow jackets

Stevie-Ray
Well, it's not near as bad at the rem golden. Maybe I shouldn't have use "serious" as an adjective, but I do get mis fires from the yellow jackets. Maybe one or two percent. Still my favorite squirrel ammo.
Live well, be safe.
Prof Young
 
The dud rate on golden bullets and Thunderbolts is about 6-8% on average. That is too high and I tend to buy CCI and Federal 22 ammo now more than in the past. Golden Bullets (Remington HV) used to be my preferred 22 ammo; not anymore.
 
Interesting thread... and I'm glad to see that Federal seems to generally perform well. I'm pretty new to this, but I've gone thru maybe 700-800 rounds of Federal without any duds so far. And I bought Fed for plinking at the range because it was the cheapest .22LR on the shelf at my local Walmart.

Maybe I should put this in another thread, but I'll try asking here first: what do you do with the duds? Toss them in the buckets of spent brass? Bury in the back yard?
 
Duds

For duds I usually pull the bullet with a pliers and dump the powder on the ground. There isn't much in a 22 lr.

Live well, be safe
Prof Young
 
i always here people talking about .22's not firing. i rarely have any .22 ammo that is a dud. never had one with the rem thunderbolts. never had one with federal bulk. never had one cci mini mag. i did have one not fire from a box of rem golden 525 bulk pack.
 
Use the Rem golden bulk packed in my P22 and Advantage Arms conversion. With the exception of CCI mini mags they are the only ones that give a consistent slide operation in both. And yes, I keep trying other bulk ammo for the plinking.
 
I've put over 500 rounds of Remington Thunderbolts and they shoot everytime and when they do mess up it's usally because I haven't cleaned it in awhile :o
 
And to think Advantage Arms build there 22lr kits to use Remington Golden Bullets and recommends the use of them. Glad I sold my 22lr kit.:eek:
 
Mark III Target HATES it...

My Ruger Mark III Target absolutely hates Remington Golden Bullets. I originally thought I had a faulty gun, then a faulty Mag (one wasn't as affected as the other), then after 1,500 rounds of Golden Turds, I switched to Federal bulk, and have had no problems since. No more RGB's for me. My Ruger 10/22 however, will eat anything you can jam into the mag....
 
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