Does .40 s&w stand for 'Short & Weak'?

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It depends.

If you are used to shooting 10mm like me, then yes the 40 is short and weak. I view the 40 as a waste of a perfectly good 10mm bullet.

If you are used to shooting the 40, then no the 40 is the 40 S&W and it is a good defensive round that is accurate, reliable and about the most power you can get out of a small frame gun. That just makes my 10mm's 40 MAGNUMS.

It is all a matter of your perspective.
 
Pretty much a balistic duplicate of the old 38-40 round in a auto wrapper and I dont recall many calling the 38-40 weak.
 
The .40 S&W stands for 'short and works'.

It's a good round and will do fine for self defense.

While I pack a 9mm that's cause I got this Glock 26 I use in very well modified form and a very good price!

But the .40 S&W is a step above the 9mm and will give good service. If my 26 had of been the 27 with all the modifications, I'd be happy with that to!

BTW, I also have a 27 and 23. I consider the 23 the best all around service handgun made for continous wear for it's balance of power, firepower, size, and weight.
 
I would think if it was short and weak it wouldn't outsell the "almost" dead 10m. Fact is the .40 is a great compromise between power, ease of handling, and compact packaging.
 
to the 10mm heads in the day.......... 40 S&W was called :

Short & Wimpy.....

Basically because it was a shortened 10mm case with a small pistol primer so some idiot hand loader didn't try and get a 10mm load into it.

40 S&W is a well proven LE and defensive round...often over-loaded, that
will NEVER replicate a full house 10mm load....and was not meant to.

A few Departments carried full house 10mm 1911's with full house 10mm ammo.
The original 10mm Norma imported load and then the PROLOAD 10mm that replicated it were pure performance loads that worked very well.

The PROLOAD would chrono @ 1625 some 135 grain went 1790 + out of my Colt Delta. Yahoo !
 
The PROLOAD would chrono @ 1625 some 135 grain went 1790 + out of my Colt Delta. Yahoo !

I'm impressed. 1790 from a 5 inch 1911. That ain't hay. But I bet it's not a fun round to shoot.

And if I packed a 1911 I'd be tempted to use that over a .45 due to it's expansion qualities. Dang, that's over 965 fp of energy and more momentium than any .45 ACP load, +p or not.

But I bet it's hard on 1911s to.
 
Don't ask me. I took a long hard look @ the cartridge when it was new. Decided it was a needless compromise between the .45ACP and the 9. Didn't help that early samples weren't even acceptably accurate. Figured it would never catch on and would die a slow, quiet death. Didn't like the Delta Elite either, knew the 10mm would beat a 1911 to pieces. At least I was right about that!
Glock came along and saved both cartridges. I even carried a Glock 27 for a few years, good gun! The high pressure and slide velocity concern me these days and the KABOOM issue is troubling as well. It's not short & weak, but it's not my .45 either. I'm comfortable with a .380 or 2" .38 most days but I like my old warhorse and it works.
 
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Since I read all the way through this, I guess I will put my 2 cents in also.
I have owned one 10mm and still do, a 610 S&W. It was a first run 5" that I had Ron Power shorten off the back to a 4" to fit common N Frame duty holsters. I have owned several 40 S&W auto's, an EAA Witness, a 4046 Smith & Wesson, a couple Glock 23's, and my current one a Springfield XDm.

Of all the 10mm auto pistols that have been offered that I consider carryable the Glock 20 and it's compact little brother are the only one that are double stacked. Hi Capacity is nice when you really need a handgun. On the other hand the Glock grip is a little large for my liking. That said the Glock is the only 10mm Auto I would consider owning at this time other than as a collectors piece.

The Delta and S&W 10mm auto's will last much longer on a diet of 40 S&W velocity ammo from everything I have read and heard about them.

Several years ago I bought up samples of all the 10 mm and 40 S&W carry ammo that I could find at the time, and tested it. My findings were quite a surprise. A great deal of the 10mm ammo was factory down loaded to 40 S&W velocity. I even tested some that was running slower in 10mm than it was in 40 S&W. If my memory serves me correctly I think that Silvertips and Corbon were about the only ones tested that were faster than 40 S&W by any meaningful amount. My guess is that the manufacturers put the weak on the 10mm first to keep from trashing out Deltas and S&W auto's.

I like my 610 a great deal. Most of the ammo I run through it is 40 S&W speed lead reloads. Why is that?? Most of my shooting is at paper in matches. I do not need the recoil and blast of full house 10mm killing cardboard. Another issue on steel the 10mm with full house ammo is likely to do damage to the targets. I read above that the 10mm was between a 9mm and 45acp in stopping power. Obviously the person who stated this has never shot full power 10mm reloads.

I have carryed the 610 as a primary duty weapon, and liked it very much in that roll. Why ?? As a Deputy Sheriff in rural Missouri most of the shots fired are expended finishing off deer that have been hit by cars. Full House 10mm does a better job killing deer than the 40 S&W in my experiance. Did I feel under gunned in case of a gunfight? NO, I shoot a lot, and I carried 4 Full Moon clips in a Quad Speed Loader Pouch at the time. In the winter I would have another 4 full moon clips in my jacket pockets.

Personal Protection: a 10mm while not a 41 Magnum, is close when handloaded to its potential. Like the Alaska Fellow pointed out, in Bear and Moose Country a Magazine Full of Full Power 10mm could save your bacon.
If I had a choice between a Glock 20 and a 629 for bear country, I think I would go with the Glocks firepower, and the ability to reload it with another large amount of ammo quickly and get it back in the fight. The 629 with 6 shots and quite possibly a hard time reloading it under REAL Stress might take a back seat to the new fangled auto. If I lived in bear country I would have to evaluate this situation much closer.

The 40 S&W while not as powerful as a 45 acp, is close. The 10mm with ammunition funning meaningfully faster than 40 S&W will generate recoil past the ability of most Law Enforcement Officers to comfortably handle. In the hands of someone willing to take on handling the blast and recoil of a 10mm, it is an awsom weapon. Both the 40 S&W and the 10mm auto have a place. I certainly hope the Glock 20 keeps the 10mm alive and well.
 
I think that if the issues with the .40 S&W haven't been covered in 3 pages, then they won't be covered in additional pages. Not to mention that the subject has been hashed and rehashed several times in the past here.

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