Do You Trust New S&W's?

Johnny, Johnny, Johnny

Now Jonathon, why would a pin prick make anything look ugly. I just got my SW625jm,.45ACP,SS, 4"... And, it is beautiful!!! I never pay attention to gun locks, because I always toss them.

I was in the middle of giving my new 625 it's initial clean, and lube. I wondered what that tiny little speck of a hole was just above the cylinder release. I hardly noticed it, but now I know... :rolleyes:

I think I'll just put some monkey sh*t in it, and touch it up a bit... :eek: :D
 
I never pay attention to gun locks, because I always toss them.
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If you are tossing the key Bull, don't. Read post #9, this thread.

Me, I have no reason to trust the new S&W revolvers. I also have no reason to buy them. It's a matter of asthetics and safety for me.

There are many things that can lock up a gun. Adding a lock for the security of the manufacturer is one more potential item that can fail and lock up a gun. Have there been failures? Yes. Read post #9. The S&W forum lists more failures. Firsthand experiences. Call it internet rumor if you like. S&W will not stop putting the locks on guns because the lock protects S&W, not the owner of the gun.

This much I know...... a Codemaster (what is used during ACLS to shock a heart to life) does not have a locking device to prevent idiots from shocking themselves (and stopping thier heart). Dumb people have died playing with Codemasters. The rational argument against a lock on a Codemaster is that it can fail and cost a someone thier life. The same argument applies to my guns. They are life saving devices as well.

The best protection against tragedy with firearms is proper training and storage. No mechanical device can ever replace that.

Oh, heck, this was a straightforward question wasn't it? Do I trust a S&W gun with a lock? No.
 
it just doesn't look classic on a Smith is all

I wonder if on the blue guns.. can you take the lock out and fill the hole with silver solder, and reblue it? :cool:
 
Do You Trust New S&W's?


Besides the fact that they're extremely UGLY and a simple butchery of the classic American wheelgun, do you still trust the new smiths (with the built-in lock)? I've heard some stories about the lock engaging during range sessions (an event that caused their users to quicly dump them for older smiths), but apparently these were ultralite guns using hard-kicking ammo (and I think it was Massad Ayoob who wrote the article).

I for one have a new-model 686P and I've probably put 1500 rounds through it. I've never had a problem. I basically just ignore the lock and lament about how ugly the thing looks with the dimple on the side. But there's still that "what if" that lingers.

What do you guys think?
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I rather like my 686-6 PP ... it is smooth, easy shooting .357 loads. I like the internal lock ... my grown kids told me that when I was asleep they would go through the strorage room and look in boxes and footlockers (as early as ages 5 and 7 no less) ... they found my hand gun (bullets were elsewhere, and a few girly magazines). I guess all the neighborhood kids got to see a Penthouse magazine at an early age ... glad none of em took it to 'show and tell'.

If you gonna let your mind wander to such unknowns as, "Will the S & W internal lock mess up this shot ?", I think you need buy another brand. I hope all hand gunners are keeping their mind focused on the shot, not wandering like a Sunday driver.

Just my opinion, but I think the S & W 686PP is a sweet revolver to shoot.

Happy Shooting !

Hook686
 
When I went revolver shopping two years ago, I came home a Ruger man with a since perfectly functioning and accurate KGP-141. I became a Ruger fan pretty much by default. No, I don't trust the S&W lock, and yes, most modern S&W revolvers are fugly as well as being chock full of MIM.

And they dare to charge more without delivering more. That's audacious. Once, they were worth the premium they commanded. Now they demand the premium out of Colt-itis--because they think the suckers will just keep buying them for the name.

No sale here on the new S&Ws. I look for minty older ones though.
 
Jeez folks!

I find it humorous that people have problems with the lock and then run into the arms of Ruger. Aesthetically, there's no way that the tiny little lock is anywhere near as ugly as the paragraph of disclaimer bullsh*t that Ruger rolls all over their gun barrels. As much as I love my Ruger Vaqueros, I think the S&W lock is far less intrusive than the legalese disclaimer on the Ruger. Talk about butt-ugly (and insulting to anyone with half a brain)! Both applications are there for the manufacturer's legal safety - not the users.

Functionality is another issue. Although I've never experienced any inadvertent lock-up, I'll give a nod to Erich and admit that I suppose it is theoretically possible for the lock to become engaged without the key. But, I've shot a boatload of rounds through a bunch of new S&W's (including ultralights like my 329PD) and have yet to have a problem. BOTTOM LINE for me is that the lock issue just isn't an issue.

stellarpod
 
I trust this one...
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Schmoo is any filler that goes on gooey. Same stuff, different name.
Here's an idea for all those whose sole concern is that the lock is not pretty:
Turn it over.
 
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